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deerhunter
Posted: Nov 28, 2017 - 04:35 pm


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Received my MNRF moose hunting survey last week. I am tempted to not fill it out. I have been applying for a moose tag for 15 years now and have never gotten one. The MNRF is using an archaic, out-dated, and primitive system for granting moose tags. And Yes, I am angry. And yes, I feel that after 15 years of paying $50 per year I should be given priority in getting a moose tag.

Last time I checked it was the year 2017. It's time MNRF overhauled it's antiquated system for granting moose tags given the fact that there are now highly sophisticated computer systems for equitably granting moose tags. Some fairness would be welcomed.

I will fill out my moose questionaire in protest and state that I didn't hunt moose this year because the individuals running the Moose Draw are idiots.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2017 - 10:35 am


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I know some hunters that travel out east to hunt. It is too expensive for me to do , but it's a thought.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2017 - 10:53 am


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Don't fill it out and you can pretty much guarantee that you won't draw next year also. Do it online, takes 10 seconds, done...

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Posted: Nov 29, 2017 - 08:05 pm


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If you fill it out and mail it back, it will most certainly end up in the blue box.

Unopened.

It's the government.

It aint rocket science.

The End.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2017 - 08:19 pm


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QUOTE (DOS @ Nov 29, 2017 - 10:53 am)
Don't fill it out and you can pretty much guarantee that you won't draw next year also. Do it online, takes 10 seconds, done...

Great idea ...and save $1+ for the stamp..

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Posted: Nov 30, 2017 - 10:18 am


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QUOTE (fatboy4me @ Nov 29, 2017 - 10:35 am)
I know some hunters that travel out east to hunt. It is too expensive for me to do , but it's a thought.

It is pricey $500 for the tag but depending where you are in Ontario many of the population can get to the Quebec border in 5-6 hours. Better than driving 10-20 hours to northern Ontario. The price you would save on gas might even cover your non-res tag. Pretty much every year when you buy your license at the store you can take a bull or a calf. Only draw is for cow. In the ZECs ( sorta like our provincial parks ) you can only harvest adult moose. Makes sense why the Quebec moose population is doing well. It is managed correctly.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2017 - 11:07 am


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QUOTE (nuzpaper @ Nov 30, 2017 - 10:18 am)
QUOTE (fatboy4me @ Nov 29, 2017 - 10:35 am)
I know some hunters that travel out east to hunt. It is too expensive for me to do , but it's a thought.

It is pricey $500 for the tag but depending where you are in Ontario many of the population can get to the Quebec border in 5-6 hours. Better than driving 10-20 hours to northern Ontario. The price you would save on gas might even cover your non-res tag. Pretty much every year when you buy your license at the store you can take a bull or a calf. Only draw is for cow. In the ZECs ( sorta like our provincial parks ) you can only harvest adult moose. Makes sense why the Quebec moose population is doing well. It is managed correctly.

Quebec changed their moose regulations a couple years ago.
Non residents now must use the services of an outfitter. That works out to a bunch more than $500

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Posted: Nov 30, 2017 - 04:04 pm


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QUOTE (Lazinator @ Nov 30, 2017 - 11:07 am)
QUOTE (nuzpaper @ Nov 30, 2017 - 10:18 am)
QUOTE (fatboy4me @ Nov 29, 2017 - 10:35 am)
I know some hunters that travel out east to hunt. It is too expensive for me to do , but it's a thought.

It is pricey $500 for the tag but depending where you are in Ontario many of the population can get to the Quebec border in 5-6 hours. Better than driving 10-20 hours to northern Ontario. The price you would save on gas might even cover your non-res tag. Pretty much every year when you buy your license at the store you can take a bull or a calf. Only draw is for cow. In the ZECs ( sorta like our provincial parks ) you can only harvest adult moose. Makes sense why the Quebec moose population is doing well. It is managed correctly.

Quebec changed their moose regulations a couple years ago.
Non residents now must use the services of an outfitter. That works out to a bunch more than $500

Incorrect. They tried to change it and there was so much uproar they changed it back before the hunt even started because they saw the revenue loss that would happen. They also tried to apply it to deer. Didn't work. Non-res can walk into any store that sells licenses and buy a moose or a deer tag. Don't even ask you for ID or a hunting license from another province. They can also hunt with bow/crossbow without having to take the Quebec bow course and as of this spring can also hunt turkey. I own land in Quebec and only hunt there. I know the regs. Below are the only restrictions that apply to non-res

https://www.mffp.gouv.qc.ca/english/publica...n-residents.asp

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Posted: Nov 30, 2017 - 05:40 pm


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Wish somebody told me this 2 years ago, i gave up on Quebec after reading the new regs at the time.

Thanks.

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Posted: Dec 02, 2017 - 10:52 am


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Ontario tags are getting harder to get. I hunt in 12a fly in. Canoe canada does not even do the rifle hunt any more as there tag allotment was down 70%.

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Posted: Dec 27, 2017 - 09:38 am


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To be successful in the draw you have to applying in the group. They post the group numbers successful for each year.
Survey is important , this year we needed to transfer a tag to another member of the group (due to the illness) 3 days before a trip and I spoke to MNR officer who told me that they usually do not do it when the season started... but she will look in to it and one of the conditions was if we filled the surveys every year.

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Posted: Jan 03, 2018 - 11:19 am


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QUOTE (oxotnik @ Dec 27, 2017 - 09:38 am)
To be successful in the draw you have to applying in the group. They post the group numbers successful for each year.

Yes that is what they say. BUT our camp applied as a group a couple of years back and did not get drawn for an adult tag. Our neighbors camp applied as individuals and got a cow tag. That same person also drew a bull tag the next year.( which should never happen since they would be in pool 2) Years ago we also drew a cow tag applying as individuals and we knew of groups that didnt get drawn. They need to do something about that whole tag system. Im sure a 12 yr old with a computer for a couple of days could figure out the tags better than what we have now.

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