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Posted: Apr 18, 2018 - 02:49 pm


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QUOTE (jmah @ Apr 18, 2018 - 01:45 pm)

Maybe those C&R guys should by tags. I catch, I eat.

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Posted: Apr 18, 2018 - 04:00 pm


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Thank You RHYBAK

If someone is staying within the limit mind your own business.

Even zuperalexu being hilariously sarcastic went over some peoples heads.

Yes let raise the prices so only people with a large disposable income can enjoy our Great Canadian Past Time. So you can have "more room on the river" joke



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Posted: Apr 18, 2018 - 04:23 pm


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Totally agree with ice addicts post.

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Posted: Apr 18, 2018 - 04:31 pm


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Sorry this topic did get off track. I guess that's how conversations sometimes flow.

Please do share Ice Addict, how can our resources can be better protected?


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Posted: Apr 18, 2018 - 04:41 pm


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Someday maybe we can have a good discussion re the tag system. Most of the opposition to it is based on misinformation/misunderstanding. e.g. enforcement (catching poachers) is actually easier, not harder as some say. An un-tagged fish is an illegal fish---plain and simple!

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Posted: Apr 18, 2018 - 04:46 pm


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MNR is the governing body in our province, so I default to their rules and regulations.

If you are a 100% CNR or 100% CNK it makes no difference to me as long as you follow the legal standards outlined by the province.

I would think the bigger issue is home freezer storage of multiple days out fishing. The ďpossessionĒ limit is really the big deal. Just because the CO stops someone and they are within their daily catch limits, it most certainly does not mean they donít have 100lbs frozen in their deep freeze at home.

Do I see any way to regulate your freezer at home? No.

As for raising the cost of licenses... I would have to say Iím against it. I would far sooner see the Gov allocate 1% of the HST on al fishing, boating, and hunting sales to go back towards the MNR. In all reality, the government did not create the lakes, rivers, and land that we use, so without these natural resources they would be getting $0 in taxes on these items.

We get taxed plenty in this province already, and taking more from your pocket will never mean that the funds will end up improving our fisheries... I assure you, it will end up going towards some overpriced bid that the government put out to fill a pothole that will be back in 10 months.

They donít need more money... they need to get more responsible in the way they spend it.
Just my 2 cents +HST

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Posted: Apr 18, 2018 - 08:02 pm


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The more money you give the government the more they squander it.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2018 - 07:43 am


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If the mnr was to raise sport fishing license but kept the conservation license low it would work for both worlds. Keep it affordable for people that just want to spend the day out fishing the catch and release. While the fisherman that like to keep more fish there is more money in the mnr funds for restocking. I myself only catch and release but buy a sport license to support mrn funding and restocking programs

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Posted: Apr 19, 2018 - 09:17 am


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People who break the law will break the law regardless. Raising fees wonít curb anything. People will just break another law and not buy the licence at all. Itís like when the government says they will stop gun violence and give lawful gun owners more hoops to jump thru. The majority of us arenít breaking the law with our long guns and training and license. Itís the criminals who circumvent all the laws and buy illegal weapons that are the problem. The shootings that take place arenít with guns bought over the counter at cabelas. Same thing in fishing. Most of the guys that get busted out of season, over limit etc get caught without a licence as well from most reports so the licence has no effect on them. And if a licence costs more they will just roll the dice and pay the fine if they get caught.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2018 - 11:01 am


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You can buy a 1 day licence if your only going to fish 2 or 3 times a year. It's 11 bucks for a day licence you fish twice it's 22 bucks, your probably going to spend more on gas to go fishing. The license are pretty cheap compare to everything else you do . I'm going on a fishing trip on the long weekend it's going to cost me over 250 to 300 dollars in gas alone . 4 tanks a fuel will be used . The 60 bucks a year for a license is peanuts compared to the rest of the thinhs you do in life.

I only buy a sports licence for my extra whittie on simcoe other than that I I don't need it . I always used a Concervation before fishing the Whitties .

who drinks beer ? 2 cases of beer is way more then a years sports licence. It cost me just as much to go to mc donalds with the family then it does for a year licence go figure .

you want to b#### about about 60 bucks a year there is plenty of other think you can b#### about if you don't like the price stay home and save your gas.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2018 - 11:13 am


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ps the last time I went ice fishing was a half tank of gas to drive from simcoe to sunny sunridge. There goes another 40 bucks in fuel . Could of gotten a conservation license for the year for less then it did to go fishing for a day.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2018 - 11:51 am


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Soooo because we get gouged at the gas pump we should also be gouged for a fishing license?

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Posted: Apr 19, 2018 - 11:57 am


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QUOTE (fishfood @ Apr 19, 2018 - 11:01 am)
You can buy a 1 day licence if your only going to fish 2 or 3 times a year. It's 11 bucks for a day licence you fish twice it's 22 bucks, your probably going to spend more on gas to go fishing. The license are pretty cheap compare to everything else you do . I'm going on a fishing trip on the long weekend it's going to cost me over 250 to 300 dollars in gas alone . 4 tanks a fuel will be used . The 60 bucks a year for a license is peanuts compared to the rest of the thinhs you do in life.

I only buy a sports licence for my extra whittie on simcoe other than that I I don't need it . I always used a Concervation before fishing the Whitties .

who drinks beer ? 2 cases of beer is way more then a years sports licence. It cost me just as much to go to mc donalds with the family then it does for a year licence go figure .

you want to b#### about about 60 bucks a year there is plenty of other think you can b#### about if you don't like the price stay home and save your gas.

These "well, X costs so much so why shouldn't Y cost a lot more" arguments are really moronic.

Hey, you paid $1000 for that airplane ticket, why should the cab ride to the hotel only cost $20 and not $200?

You paid $40k for that truck, why should the oil changes cost only $100 and not $500 ?

You paid $400k for that house, clearly the hydro should cost at least $2000 per month.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2018 - 12:37 pm


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Remember your possession limits as well. not sure what the restrictions are on the possession limits for trout or salmon as I never really target them.

For perch on simcoe, you are allotted 50 daily 100 possession. legally, what this means, is on the daily limit you can keep 50, but you can only have a grand total of 100 perch in your freezer. so say you catch your limit 1 day throw them in your freezer. fish the next day, throw them in your freezer. that's your 100 possession limit. so even though your daily limit on day 3 is 50, you cannot keep any more. BUT say you eat 20 perch. you now only have 80 total I your possession, so you can keep 20 more. I think that is where this question lies is in the possession limit. (if there is a possession limit) If I was targeting trout or salmon I definitely would read up on my regs but I don't have the need because I don't target them (except during the salmon run but that is 100% C&R and I check the local regs for that just in case a fish does die on me)

the poster said the limit for salmon is 5. so if there is no possession limit, LEGALLY if you fished 20 days, you can keep 100 salmon, as long as you are only keeping 5 each day. Ethically/sustainability wise? please don't, you are only hurting the populations and ruining your and other's future experience. keep what you need. nothing more nothing less.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2018 - 12:42 pm


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QUOTE (Eforbes_ca @ Apr 19, 2018 - 07:43 am)
If the mnr was to raise sport fishing license but kept the conservation license low it would work for both worlds. Keep it affordable for people that just want to spend the day out fishing the catch and release. While the fisherman that like to keep more fish there is more money in the mnr funds for restocking. I myself only catch and release but buy a sport license to support mrn funding and restocking programs

I agree with his point. I personally buy a sports license. Mainly as a muskie fisherman, if the most unfortunate situation of a monster muskie dying on me during the fight/release, I can keep it. I would never keep a muskie unless it died on me. and ONLY THEN, if I did keep the muskie, I would bring it to my sister's fiancť, who works for the MNRF for test samples. I wouldn't eat the muskie. I do buy the sports as an insurance policy. If I had a conservation, I couldn't keep a single fish, and if a muskie died on me, I have to let it float and become turtle food... that would destroy beyond belief!

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