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Just got a chance to check out both videos looks like a great time! I think it’s great that you’re always venturing in to those lakes. We’ll be doing the same in July on a remote bass lake camping for a few days. Even if the fishing ends up being a bust the adventure makes it all worth while.
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QUOTE (sparky302 @ May 28, 2024 - 05:43 am)
QUOTE (Knuguy @ May 27, 2024 - 08:33 pm)
Wow---what nice fish. Looks like you have it all figured out pretty well. What were you using for bait or lure with the gang trolls. Are those trout stocked or natural?
Thx
I was running a full worm 18 inches behind the troll. Water temp was 64 on the surface so i knew they could be deeper so i added 1 oz weight at the front with the rudder of troll. Using my line counter reel i let out 54 feet of line. Had my handheld gps for speed and varied from 1.7 mph to 2 mph. This lake is a stocked lake about a 12 km ride by atv.
Thx for that. Wow Quite detailed. You must keep a very detailed log.
If you don't mind a bit of hijacking, I would like to understand stocking a bit better. I am not sure what the goals of MNRF's stocking program are. There are 3 small waterbodies in my area that seem to be strictly put and take. In one small lake there are a couple of deep holes that specks could possibly survive in but the other 2 ponds are quite small and shallow. They get swarmed on opening day, or so I am told. I stay well away as it seems to be quite the circus. The lakes that you fish seem to have an environment that lets them live long enough to grow into the lunkers that you catch. Is MNRF stocking those lakes in the hopes that the speck population will become self sustaining? thx
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QUOTE (Knuguy @ Jun 05, 2024 - 09:26 pm)
QUOTE (sparky302 @ May 28, 2024 - 05:43 am)
QUOTE (Knuguy @ May 27, 2024 - 08:33 pm)
Wow---what nice fish. Looks like you have it all figured out pretty well. What were you using for bait or lure with the gang trolls. Are those trout stocked or natural?
Thx
I was running a full worm 18 inches behind the troll. Water temp was 64 on the surface so i knew they could be deeper so i added 1 oz weight at the front with the rudder of troll. Using my line counter reel i let out 54 feet of line. Had my handheld gps for speed and varied from 1.7 mph to 2 mph. This lake is a stocked lake about a 12 km ride by atv.
Thx for that. Wow Quite detailed. You must keep a very detailed log.
If you don't mind a bit of hijacking, I would like to understand stocking a bit better. I am not sure what the goals of MNRF's stocking program are. There are 3 small waterbodies in my area that seem to be strictly put and take. In one small lake there are a couple of deep holes that specks could possibly survive in but the other 2 ponds are quite small and shallow. They get swarmed on opening day, or so I am told. I stay well away as it seems to be quite the circus. The lakes that you fish seem to have an environment that lets them live long enough to grow into the lunkers that you catch. Is MNRF stocking those lakes in the hopes that the speck population will become self sustaining? thx
Knuguy this is from MNRF Sudbury
Wayne is now retired i use to chat with him lots but this well give you an answer to to question believe there are 4 strains currently in the provincial hatchery system: the Hills Lake domestic strain (a very old domesticated strain), the Lake Nipigon wild strain, a hybrid of the two (Lake Nipigon X Hills Lake), and most recently a Dixon Lake wild strain from Algonquin Park believed to be more tolerant of warmer water. The Dixon Lake strain is not widely available for stocking.
In Sudbury we stock mainly the Lake Nipigon X Hills Lake hybrid. They tend to grow faster and produce a better put-grow-take fishery. And, yes I have seen them exceed one pound in their first year (2 years of age as they are stocked at one year old), achieve 3 pounds in 2 years, 5 in 3 years. They rarely live beyond age 5 or 4 years after stocking. If we are trying to establish a self-sustaining population we occasionally use the Lake Nipigon wild strain although the hybrid strain will also establish if conditions are suitable.
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QUOTE (Icemanjay @ May 28, 2024 - 11:28 am)
Just got a chance to check out both videos looks like a great time! I think it’s great that you’re always venturing in to those lakes. We’ll be doing the same in July on a remote bass lake camping for a few days. Even if the fishing ends up being a bust the adventure makes it all worth while.
Have you headed out on your camping adventure yet?
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I have done some brookie fishing in the past but never caught anything big, was always fun tho and I plan to in the future. Currently out of the country and haven't went fishing in 2 years but still view the forum lol. Looks like there is something called Lenok or Manchurian trout here.
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QUOTE (sparky302 @ Jun 06, 2024 - 06:32 am)
QUOTE (Knuguy @ Jun 05, 2024 - 09:26 pm)
QUOTE (sparky302 @ May 28, 2024 - 05:43 am)
QUOTE (Knuguy @ May 27, 2024 - 08:33 pm)
Wow---what nice fish. Looks like you have it all figured out pretty well. What were you using for bait or lure with the gang trolls. Are those trout stocked or natural?
Thx
I was running a full worm 18 inches behind the troll. Water temp was 64 on the surface so i knew they could be deeper so i added 1 oz weight at the front with the rudder of troll. Using my line counter reel i let out 54 feet of line. Had my handheld gps for speed and varied from 1.7 mph to 2 mph. This lake is a stocked lake about a 12 km ride by atv.
Thx for that. Wow Quite detailed. You must keep a very detailed log.
If you don't mind a bit of hijacking, I would like to understand stocking a bit better. I am not sure what the goals of MNRF's stocking program are. There are 3 small waterbodies in my area that seem to be strictly put and take. In one small lake there are a couple of deep holes that specks could possibly survive in but the other 2 ponds are quite small and shallow. They get swarmed on opening day, or so I am told. I stay well away as it seems to be quite the circus. The lakes that you fish seem to have an environment that lets them live long enough to grow into the lunkers that you catch. Is MNRF stocking those lakes in the hopes that the speck population will become self sustaining? thx
Knuguy this is from MNRF Sudbury
Wayne is now retired i use to chat with him lots but this well give you an answer to to question believe there are 4 strains currently in the provincial hatchery system: the Hills Lake domestic strain (a very old domesticated strain), the Lake Nipigon wild strain, a hybrid of the two (Lake Nipigon X Hills Lake), and most recently a Dixon Lake wild strain from Algonquin Park believed to be more tolerant of warmer water. The Dixon Lake strain is not widely available for stocking.
In Sudbury we stock mainly the Lake Nipigon X Hills Lake hybrid. They tend to grow faster and produce a better put-grow-take fishery. And, yes I have seen them exceed one pound in their first year (2 years of age as they are stocked at one year old), achieve 3 pounds in 2 years, 5 in 3 years. They rarely live beyond age 5 or 4 years after stocking. If we are trying to establish a self-sustaining population we occasionally use the Lake Nipigon wild strain although the hybrid strain will also establish if conditions are suitable.
Any other question feel free to ask.
Regards,
Wayne
Thx for that. So it seems that in some cases MNRF have no expectation of establishing a self sustaining trout pop. It somehow seems a bit more 'sporting' if they at least have a chance to grow. I guess the ponds that I know about are stocked w/o a chance to grow for entertainment of those living in fairly close proximity.
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