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sniperlee
Posted: Mar 25, 2020 - 08:41 pm


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So I've been off work for the last 2 wks so I've been hitting the river pretty hard. I've been having some good days for me, but lately it's been 1fer3,1fer4and 1fer2. That was after going 7fer8.
So the question is why are these fish becoming unbuttoned? The fish I'm losing aren't coming off at hookset but after fighting them for various lengths of time. I'm thinking 2 things. A)I'm horsing them or B)hook (raven #14). Maybe just a string of bad luck?
A fellow fisherman suggested a wide gap hook but I'm just imagining more snags.lol.
Any suggestions or thoughts are appreciated.

P.S. I had a favorable experience with Simms about my waders after an unfavorable one with my boots.

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centerspin
Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 12:04 am


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Its warming up and fresh fish is stronger - easier to loose. Me thinks.

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 02:04 am


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Those raven hooks are on the thin side and come out of the mouth after wiggling a bit. I used to use them before but switched to Daiichi hooks and landed more fish since. Good luck!!

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 05:06 am


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Go from #14 to #12 or #10. Larger gap for larger fish.

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 08:16 am


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Have you changed your hooks from more successful days? If you havenít changed anything could be a handful of things.

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 08:30 am


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QUOTE (Tommy_Niagara @ Mar 26, 2020 - 05:06 am)
Go from #14 to #12 or #10. Larger gap for larger fish.

x2. A few years ago, I suddenly lost several trout on one outing -- which for some reason was quite entertaining to a buddy(?). I upsized my hook and "problem solved". Not that much larger, but just that much more grab/hold.

After all, what have you to lose (ha ha -- sorry!).

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 03:37 pm


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Don't know what to tell you as I was out last week for first time since January and 70% of my fish came unbuttoned just as you described

water is still cold 37, so fight was not the issue.. I think they were just short hitting as the fish we did get all just barely had the hook in the mouth

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sniperlee
Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 06:46 pm


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QUOTE (Tommy_Niagara @ Mar 26, 2020 - 05:06 am)
Go from #14 to #12 or #10. Larger gap for larger fish.

Will try the 10s next.

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 06:47 pm


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QUOTE (1stdrift @ Mar 26, 2020 - 08:16 am)
Have you changed your hooks from more successful days? If you havenít changed anything could be a handful of things.

Same hooks the last 3 yrs.

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sniperlee
Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 06:47 pm


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QUOTE (Newburg007 @ Mar 26, 2020 - 08:30 am)
QUOTE (Tommy_Niagara @ Mar 26, 2020 - 05:06 am)
Go from #14 to #12 or #10. Larger gap for larger fish.

x2. A few years ago, I suddenly lost several trout on one outing -- which for some reason was quite entertaining to a buddy(?). I upsized my hook and "problem solved". Not that much larger, but just that much more grab/hold.

After all, what have you to lose (ha ha -- sorry!).

Lol.

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sniperlee
Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 06:52 pm


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QUOTE (Longshank @ Mar 26, 2020 - 03:37 pm)
Don't know what to tell you as I was out last week for first time since January and 70% of my fish came unbuttoned just as you described

water is still cold 37, so fight was not the issue.. I think they were just short hitting as the fish we did get all just barely had the hook in the mouth

Thats a theory I never thought about. a fellow fisherman did say he had a couple of short hits one day. Thanks Shank.

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 06:53 pm


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QUOTE (VBB @ Mar 26, 2020 - 02:04 am)
Those raven hooks are on the thin side and come out of the mouth after wiggling a bit. I used to use them before but switched to Daiichi hooks and landed more fish since. Good luck!!

Will give them a go.

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Posted: Mar 26, 2020 - 06:54 pm


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QUOTE (centerspin @ Mar 26, 2020 - 12:04 am)
Its warming up and fresh fish is stronger - easier to loose. Me thinks.

Operator error you're saying?? Hhmmm.....yup!

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Posted: Mar 27, 2020 - 11:02 am


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I started out with size 6 hooks close to 30 years ago float fishing. They worked. Over the years I kept going smaller and smaller to the point I was losing fish left right and center. My Dad came over and told me I was using to small of a hook which I couldnít argue as he was hooking and landing fish.
I have since used this formula always and never have fish coming unbuttoned except on the rare occasion.

Crystal clear water #10 wide gap
Perfect conditions #8 wide gap
Dirty conditions #6 wide gap

The only time I stray from this is occasionally I use #10 in perfect steelhead green waters when itís a deep slow pool.

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Longshank
Posted: Mar 27, 2020 - 03:37 pm


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I should have mentioned hook size as well, pretty much what Disco posted have not used a 12 or 14 in a very long time and I would say size 8 is my go to most of the time

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