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Grumpa
Posted: Jul 28, 2018 - 09:30 am


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QUOTE (westarm @ Jul 27, 2018 - 10:53 pm)
QUOTE (Sterling @ Jul 27, 2018 - 08:54 pm)
Someone needs to show me where to get Gar! That's a big one!

PS about the blue walleye, they are extinct, that's just a blue colored walleye, rarely you'll find blue perch as well.


and naturally I have to ask, whats the difference between a blue colored walleye and a blue walleye, I will give you a little background here, there was no slimy blue on him, you couldn't wipe blue off as I have read on some of the "FAKES" for lack of terms, he was the same texture as any other walleye and the blue was predominately down the top of his back, I sent a picture to my cousin who forwarded it to his mnr buddy, he suggested "it looks like it could be a blue" just curious what gives it away to you that its not a "real" blue. is there something you see that we missed? extinction when it comes to fish can be a tough call. cheers!

Hi westarm
Sorry to interject on the gar discussion...which I'm enjoying by the way...I've never used live bait for them...only ever caught them casting with neutrally buoyant minnow baits...which is mostly frustrating because they only manage to hook themselves about 1 out of every 40 times they slash at the lures with their beaks in an effort to disable the minnow baits.

As for the blue walleye....genetic testing has indicated none of the 'original' strain of blue pickerel continue to exist in Nipissing.
The few remaining blue pickerel left by the 1950's/60's successfully interbred with stocked yellow's over time and the blue's 'pure' genetic background was presumably lost.
So even though it may appear you have a 'pure' blue pickerel...it's probably an alternative colour variation, many generations removed, of a blue/yellow cross.
I posted this back in 2015 when the topic came up then.

http://bluewalleye.org

The author was a senior management biologist for the Nipissing OMNRF and one time eventual consultant/biologist for the NFN on their lake walleye management plan.

Personally, I still call them blue pickerel myself when we catch the odd one each year down at our end of the lake. It's a good conversation moment for visitors when they pull one up and wonder why it looks slightly different then the rest of the walleye they're catching.

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Posted: Jul 28, 2018 - 09:39 am


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QUOTE (Grumpa @ Jul 28, 2018 - 10:30 am)
QUOTE (westarm @ Jul 27, 2018 - 10:53 pm)
QUOTE (Sterling @ Jul 27, 2018 - 08:54 pm)
Someone needs to show me where to get Gar! That's a big one!

PS about the blue walleye, they are extinct, that's just a blue colored walleye, rarely you'll find blue perch as well.


and naturally I have to ask, whats the difference between a blue colored walleye and a blue walleye, I will give you a little background here, there was no slimy blue on him, you couldn't wipe blue off as I have read on some of the "FAKES" for lack of terms, he was the same texture as any other walleye and the blue was predominately down the top of his back, I sent a picture to my cousin who forwarded it to his mnr buddy, he suggested "it looks like it could be a blue" just curious what gives it away to you that its not a "real" blue. is there something you see that we missed? extinction when it comes to fish can be a tough call. cheers!

Hi westarm
Sorry to interject on their gar discussion...which I'm enjoying by the way...I've never used live bait for them...only ever caught them casting with neutrally buoyant minnow baits...which is mostly frustrating because they only manage to hook themselves about 1 out of every 40 times they slash at the lures with their beaks in an effort to disable the minnows baits.

As for the blue walleye....genetic testing has indicated none of the 'original' strain of blue pickerel continue to exist in Nipissing.
The few remaining blue pickerel left by the 1959's/60's successfully interbred with stocked yellow's over time and the blue's 'pure' genetic background was presumably lost.
So even though it may appear you have a 'pure' blue pickerel...it's probably an alternative colour variation, many generations removed, of a blue/yellow cross.
I posted this back in 2015 when the topic came up then.

http://bluewalleye.org

The author was a senior management biologist for the Nipissing OMNRF and one time eventual consultant/biologist for the NFN on their lake walleye management plan.

Personally, I still call them blue pickerel myself when we catch the odd one each year down at our end of the lake. It's a good conversation moment for visitors when they pull one up and wonder why it looks slightly different then the rest of the walleye they're catching.

hi grumpa, I realized I had them backwards always thought the slimy ones were {fake} lol.

also white tipped anal fin and tail is a dead giveaway

cheers.

and I agree, I have yet to hook one of those gars with a lure, 1 in 40 sounds about right to me

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Posted: Jul 28, 2018 - 09:48 am


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another question, our are lake nipissing gar longnose gar or spotted gar?

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Posted: Jul 28, 2018 - 11:51 am


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QUOTE (westarm @ Jul 28, 2018 - 12:02 am)
QUOTE (ldub @ Jul 27, 2018 - 07:55 pm)
Great report, what's your secret pike batter it looks tasty?

its delicious and simple

1 cup of flour
1.5 teaspoons baking powder
half teaspoon salt
mix all this stuff up and slowly add
1 beer until pancake consistency


Very similar to my receipt except I grab two spices - never the same twice just to add a little something.

Been fishing a DAM long time, never caught a Gar Pike

Great pictures

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Posted: Jul 28, 2018 - 11:53 am


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QUOTE (westarm @ Jul 28, 2018 - 09:48 am)
another question, our are lake nipissing gar longnose gar or spotted gar?

Long nose gar.

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Posted: Jul 28, 2018 - 12:17 pm


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QUOTE (Grumpa @ Jul 28, 2018 - 12:53 pm)
QUOTE (westarm @ Jul 28, 2018 - 09:48 am)
another question, our are lake nipissing gar longnose gar or spotted gar?

Long nose gar.

that's what I thought and have always called them, they can grow up to about 6' long!

the spotted gar doesn't grow as long

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Posted: Jul 30, 2018 - 03:07 pm


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Nice fishing westarm, good variety of fish you are catching, regardless the color. The gar pike is probably on a lot of peoples bucket list, including mine.

Nice to see you are getting out and having some good action, maybe you might want to save some of that action for this winter

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QUOTE (FatRap @ Jul 30, 2018 - 04:07 pm)
Nice fishing westarm, good variety of fish you are catching, regardless the color. The gar pike is probably on a lot of peoples bucket list, including mine.

Nice to see you are getting out and having some good action, maybe you might want to save some of that action for this winter

FatRap, how dare you say the "W" word?? its not even august yet! lol.

everytime I try to fish in the winter my lures aren't heavy enough to go through the ice and my boat gets stuck! the upside is the beers always cold.

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Posted: Jul 30, 2018 - 05:48 pm


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Great pics ... ...i have only got 1 gar in my many years of fishing Nip..

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Posted: Jul 31, 2018 - 12:48 pm


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QUOTE (westarm @ Jul 30, 2018 - 05:54 pm)
QUOTE (FatRap @ Jul 30, 2018 - 04:07 pm)
Nice fishing westarm, good variety of fish you are catching, regardless the color. The gar pike is probably on a lot of peoples bucket list, including mine.

Nice to see you are getting out and having some good action, maybe you might want to save some of that action for this winter

FatRap, how dare you say the "W" word?? its not even august yet! lol.

everytime I try to fish in the winter my lures aren't heavy enough to go through the ice and my boat gets stuck! the upside is the beers always cold.

LMAO

Enjoy the rest of your summer, tight lines

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