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Posted: Sep 17, 2018 - 08:11 pm


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Thanks for the awesome report and the pics. The tiger Muskie is a beauty

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tjames
Posted: Sep 17, 2018 - 11:16 pm


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QUOTE (fishmagnet @ Sep 17, 2018 - 03:56 pm)
Don't want to get roasted over this but musky taste good too..I used to go with my dad to the Ottawa River by Fitzroy harbor but on the Quebec side and lots of people in that area ate musky... It seems no one eats Musky anymore..

Musky need to be over 44Ē to be kept. There arenít many over that size. Lots of musky in the 36-40Ē range in the Kawartha.

Itís more of a sport fish than an eating fish IMO, but to each there own.

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Collingwood Dean
Posted: Sep 18, 2018 - 06:35 am


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Great report...looks like you had plenty of action!

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Posted: Sep 18, 2018 - 06:58 am


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QUOTE (tjames @ Sep 17, 2018 - 11:16 pm)
QUOTE (fishmagnet @ Sep 17, 2018 - 03:56 pm)
Don't want to get roasted over this but musky taste good too..I used to go with my dad to the Ottawa River by Fitzroy harbor but on the Quebec side and lots of people in that area ate musky... It seems no one eats Musky anymore..

Musky need to be over 44Ē to be kept. There arenít many over that size. Lots of musky in the 36-40Ē range in the Kawartha.

Itís more of a sport fish than an eating fish IMO, but to each there own.

I should add this was 25 to 30 years ago and not sure what the regs were back then.. But all the fish were very plentiful then...

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Posted: Sep 18, 2018 - 08:50 am


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Just to add to fish magnet's comment. Catching, keeping, and eating muskies was a common practice in the 70's. The size you could keep then was as low as 28" at one point and then made the jump to 36". Daryl Choronrzey published a fish cook book that also had 7-8 recipes for muskies in it. Days, thankfully gone by...

Jerry, chin-up that is a great looking Tiger Muskie you caught there and probably won't be your last. Thanks for the pictures and report.

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Posted: Sep 18, 2018 - 10:20 am


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Thanks for the report, it is sad to see but hopefully it won't be as bad as we think. Mother nature seems to have a way to balance things out and try to eat them pike because they are tasty! Cheers.

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Posted: Sep 18, 2018 - 02:31 pm


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Nice variety of expected and unexpected fish caught

No one ever wants to hear or see a pike invasion happening in a lake previous void of this species. Lot's of fish for a pike to eat in Rice Lake so my guess is they will survive well in this lake, their only concern would be the musky but it looks like they decided to make love not war

Good to see you finally got out in the boat.

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Posted: Sep 19, 2018 - 12:48 pm


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Great report first pike Iíve seen come out of rice also.

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ThorahGuy
Posted: Sep 19, 2018 - 08:23 pm


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Great to see that you got out Jerry, long overdue. Sounds like a fun day for sure except the @#$%& Pike.

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Posted: Sep 21, 2018 - 11:48 am


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Certainly discouraging metalbuckle...but fully expected.
Rice is well within the northerns' range. They exist in many water bodies surrounding Rice. Normally a pike invasion will create some initial havoc. They usually spawn earlier, before muskie's...and young northerns' can and will target/pray on newly hatched and smaller juvenile muskie (and pretty much everything else they can get in their mouths). The tables only start to turn a bit later in life when the musky's size and growth starts to out pace the northern pikes (a larger adult musky will eat smaller northerns...hopefully, they start to target pike as another potential food source).
However, as has happened in other water bodies...the musky may eventually develop some defensive spawning mechanisms to combat pike predation. But it likely takes time for a native musky population, to adapt new defensive spawning behaviours. It's possible you might see some initial decline in successful musky spawning recruitment...depending how fast the pike population expands.
Generally, the northerns preferred temperature range is colder then musky...hence they normally 'prefer' deeper, cooler habitat then muskie. Consequently, the shallower and warmer an environment...the less likely it is that the pike could grow to their maximum potential size or their population expand so rapidly and successfully that they push a resident musky population out entirely. Lake St. Clair is a prime example of this.
Some US studies have shown that resident musky populations could eventually benefit, in some ways, from a pike invasion....as the largest, healthiest and most adaptable of their species are able to survive and thrive while competing with the newly introduced predator. The 'what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger' explanation....as Bigfishlill noted...Mother Nature has a way of balancing things out.
I honestly can't tell you how many years or even generations it would take for the lake's existing musky population to adapt to the northerns introduction. They do successfully coexist in many water bodies. But it's probably safe to assume that the musky will experience some new pressures from a northern pike invasion and expansion.
Enjoyed your post metalbuckle and the distinctive and informative photos.

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Posted: Sep 22, 2018 - 05:58 am


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Nice way to kick some dust of the boat .

Awesome outing on different fish species.

Colours in the tiger Muskie are cool

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Posted: Sep 25, 2018 - 07:49 am


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Nice report, healthy looking fish even if undesired species.

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