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sandybay
Posted: Nov 19, 2019 - 09:37 am


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Posted: Nov 20, 2019 - 12:33 am


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I have witnessed first hand someone falling through the ice thinned by a dock bubbler. Pretty scary stuff. I can't imagine anyone getting much more than a soaker with an 8-10inch hole from an auger. How does one "guard" their holes?

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Posted: Nov 20, 2019 - 07:30 am


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QUOTE (kokemachine @ Nov 20, 2019 - 12:33 am)
I have witnessed first hand someone falling through the ice thinned by a dock bubbler. Pretty scary stuff. I can't imagine anyone getting much more than a soaker with an 8-10inch hole from an auger. How does one "guard" their holes?

You sit there and menacingly wave your auger at anyone that gets near your hole!

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Posted: Nov 20, 2019 - 11:48 am


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Wondering if this relates to spear fishing. In and around Lake St. Clair, Iíve seen pictures of fisherman who spear fish for pike/musky in shallow waters where Pike tend to migrate in the winter months. Openings are made with what appears to be with a chainsaw and sized around a 2x3 foot hole where someone could easily fall into it I suppose, if not careful.

Canít see how this would apply to an augered hole by any means as Koke referred to but that would be hilarious seeing a bunch of guys standing on the lake waving their arms crazily until their holes freeze back over

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Posted: Nov 20, 2019 - 01:56 pm


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QUOTE (ClamFishing123 @ Nov 20, 2019 - 12:48 pm)
Wondering if this relates to spear fishing. In and around Lake St. Clair, Iíve seen pictures of fisherman who spear fish for pike/musky in shallow waters where Pike tend to migrate in the winter months. Openings are made with what appears to be with a chainsaw and sized around a 2x3 foot hole where someone could easily fall into it I suppose, if not careful.

Canít see how this would apply to an augered hole by any means as Koke referred to but that would be hilarious seeing a bunch of guys standing on the lake waving their arms crazily until their holes freeze back over

I'm pretty sure that's illegal unless you're a status card holder.

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Posted: Nov 20, 2019 - 02:14 pm


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My mistake, couldíve been an American picture as Lake St. Clair is split both American and Canadian. Couldnít imagine being on the ice and spearing a fish, something just doesnít seem right. This is a screen grab from a Lake St. Clair fishing board

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Posted: Nov 20, 2019 - 06:01 pm


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https://youtu.be/W4NFdcuUJC0

Lost of spearing still going on..
Not for me..

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Posted: Dec 07, 2019 - 10:07 am


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I have gone thru a hole on Scugog. Someone chain sawed a hole for the hut and at the end of there day the hut got pushed off the hole about 6 feet without marking the hole. I had dropped off our extra bait to some guys in a hut doing a night fish, as I was running to catch up to my gang I hit the just frozen over hole and went thru. Hit the far side of the hole about waist deep and pitched forward onto the solid ice. If I would of had some matches I would of warmed my legs and water filled boots by lighting the hut for some warmth.

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Posted: Dec 07, 2019 - 10:23 am


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Simple solution don't allow anything over a 10 inch hole imo

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Posted: Dec 10, 2019 - 12:03 pm


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QUOTE (ldub @ Dec 07, 2019 - 10:23 am)
Simple solution don't allow anything over a 10 inch hole imo

Last person off the lake steps in 10" hole lands horribly wrong and snaps an ankle or knee, is no longer mobile and now its dark and succumbs to exposure/hypothermia overnight. Can happen... But then again had this person been guarding his own hole until it was safely frozen over being the last one on the lake all of the other holes would have been safely frozen over as well. So whose really at fault?

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Posted: Dec 10, 2019 - 01:22 pm


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Many years ago I was fishing with my dad on a local river. We drilled our 4 holes 8". After fishing for a bit dad steps back and into a 10" hole we couldn't see. he fell backwards and broke his tail bone. hardly walk for a long time. any hole can be a problem, depending where you step or what part of foot hits it.

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Posted: Dec 10, 2019 - 04:32 pm


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Good point, I was only thinking about the falling right through problem.

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Posted: Dec 10, 2019 - 05:53 pm


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I'm no lawyer or anything but I still don't see how that would translate into manslaughter... At worst it's reckless endangerment causing death(or bodily harm whatever the case may be) but again my only formal legal training came from law and order so I am just guessing here but I think that's some form of sensationalist media trying to scare you into thinking you are going to jail for ice fishing.

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  Posted: Dec 10, 2019 - 07:18 pm


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Well fellas, Iím guessing the legislature is telling us it is our legal duty as citizens in society, to not go back to work until our ice holes are frozen over. In this case itís more likely to just keep fishing, so you legally canít get fired for not going back to work. Iím in for that.

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 - 06:47 am


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QUOTE (SheriffD @ Dec 10, 2019 - 07:18 pm)
Well fellas, Iím guessing the legislature is telling us it is our legal duty as citizens in society, to not go back to work until our ice holes are frozen over. In this case itís more likely to just keep fishing, so you legally canít get fired for not going back to work. Iím in for that.

He's the sheriff so we have to do what he says

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