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gunoieru
Posted: Mar 09, 2020 - 02:09 pm


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because i refuse to have to fight for a fishing spot on the shore of any lake that is within 2 hours drive from TO i decided to buy a kayak, but i have a hard time deciding on which one.

from my research i can see that will have to go with a 12' paddle kayak. old town topwater seems to me like a good one and the budget is almost there (trying to limit myself at $1000). Pelican, Ascend, Wilderness Systems also have similar ones in the same category, both budget and functionality.

Any advise of practical differences between them?

Also some questions i have: will a 12' allow me to troll lake Ontario? or at least to cross the harbor to make it he islands? lake simcoe? eerie? provided wind is not too bad (i see many recommending wind < 20kmh). smaller kawartha lakes should be ok i think.
How do i safely lift a 100lbs kayak on the top of the suv? toyota highalnder owner and both the antena fin and the rear top tailgate would make it difficult to load from back.
How do i store it for winter? (single car garage, 10' height, so not much space available)

if any one has opinions on the new kayaks on the market please share. i say new, as i looked for pre-owned but it seems like those are both going real fast and the they're not much cheaper than a new one.

also, even though i am a beginner, i am fairly fit and i tend to learn my tool in not that long of a time. i gave some thought to go first with something cheaper and smaller and upgrade in a year or two but i think kayaks would be like any other outdoor thing: don;t go cheap cause that first sign of trouble it will ruin it for life.

sorry for the long letter i have sooo many questions... do i worry too much?

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fish bone
Posted: Mar 09, 2020 - 04:38 pm


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First of all welcome to kayak fishing.

When I started with kayaking, I bought Hobie Revolution ($1600)brand new back then. It was 13ft long kayak and I used it everywhere from Lake Ontario to small lakes up north.

What do you what to use it for the most? If for trolling, then paddle kayaks are perfectly fine. If you want to use it for casting then peddle kayaks has advantage.

Most of my fishing is trolling far from shore so I use relatively (for fishing kayaks) narrow and long kayak -Kaskazi Marlin that has no issue to cover 10-15 km.
This set up would be overkill for smaller lakes where shorter and wider kayaks have advantages.
All mainstream brands make pretty good kayaks. Wilderness Systems Tarpons, Ocean Kayak Tridents, Hobies, Jacksons are good choices.
Personally, the light weight is important for me as I cartop my kayak. I would look for something less then 75lb.
Ones, I had heavy kayak and many times I didn`t go out as I didn`t want to hassle with heavy beast.
Another thing to consider is how often do you want to use it. It doesn`t make sense to spend lot of money for something that you use 3 times a year.

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turtle
Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 06:41 am


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I have a Ocean Kayak big game 2. Like fishing a big surf board sitting on a good lawn chair. Only real down side is weight 80 pounds and awkward to move unless on a trolley, Also a b#### to get on top of a truck unless you're fit. I'd recommend something similar 12 feet long maybe lighter weight,

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Dutch
Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 02:47 pm


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A Jackson Bite is a great starter kayak and is in your price range.

I also have a buddy selling a Perception Pescador Pro 120 with paddle, life vest, fish finder and safety kit etc around your price range. Let me know if interested and we can take it offline for deets/pics

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gunoieru
Posted: Mar 11, 2020 - 12:23 pm


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thanks for your thoughts so far

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What do you what to use it for the most?

fishing i am not single species. i enjoy fishing. sometimes i don;t even care if there is a bite. i keep telling my wife that fishing is not the same thing with catching fish so it will range from local pond to lake O as long as both myself and the kayak can handle it. and while i know i will handle it fairly quickly, the kayak has its final limitations so that is why i am bit concerned about what i will be spending the money on.

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Like fishing a big surf board sitting on a good lawn chair. Only real down side is weight 80 pounds

that is how i feel about old town topwater: it is described as very comfortable but lifting that on top of the SUV... maybe i need to hit the shoulders a bit more often when go to the gym. it's 82lbs. and get longer hands. well.. get taller overall would help best (not gonna happen though, is it?)

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a buddy selling a Perception Pescador Pro 120 with paddle, life vest, fish finder and safety kit etc around your price range

sounds like a great deal, but i am not ready to put the money down just yet. it is in line with what i am looking for though.

i guess it is not really possible to have someone tell me "buy that", (well, it is, but i should doubt it, at least a little bit) and i get it. so perhaps the main question would be "would a 12' paddle kayak allow me to troll for steelhead in lake Ontario or chase a walleye in lake Eerie?

thank again for your thoughts.

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yakfisher
Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 12:39 pm


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As far as the kayak goes the options are many. As far as a tool to get the kayak on the roof of your suv I found the options to be few.
I settled on a Malone load assist rack. I load my 80lb kayak onto the roof of my Grand Cherokee relatively easy.
Make sure when you calculate your budget you include all the accessories required. These extras can range from $100 to $500 depending on your needs.
Good luck with your new hobby.

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gerryk
Posted: Mar 17, 2020 - 07:51 pm


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buy that Perception , I have one love it ,sounds like a good deal !!

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