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Posted: Mar 27, 2019 - 09:12 am


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QUOTE (WTFish @ Mar 27, 2019 - 07:24 am)
Ya, I wonder why? Could it be because commercial harvest is unsustainably high?

Data is there, it's just kept secret because it doesn't fit nicely with the political agenda

I don't think the data exists.

There is indeed a quota, and 48,000kg does sound right, but that quota is for legal anglers only.

Then there are the illegal harvesters doing their own thing. To keep tabs on their harvest, the NFN needs to follow them around and count nets, etc. It's tedious work. Last time they published their observations, there was some nasty backlash against all of NFN.

Put it this way, there is as much data on illegal NFN netting as there is on illegal recreational angling.

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Posted: Mar 27, 2019 - 11:00 am


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QUOTE (Grumpa @ Mar 26, 2019 - 09:24 pm)
The management plan also indicated the 2013 spawn was poor...reason-very few spawning female fish were found at the sampling site (Wasi Falls). This is why the OMNRF designated the 2011 and 2012 spawns as the foundation to rebuild the walleye population...those year classes represented approximately 60% of the walleye left in the system. The walleye biomass had dropped to troublesome levels by the fall of 2013.

oh, 48000 kg so 105,000 lbs, in five short years that would be 525,000 lbs

so we designate 2011 and 2012 spawns as the foundation to rebuild but aren't those exactly the fish that got taken out by nets????

I don't understand how can you reconcile the MNR report and the commercial harvest amounts and still be in favor of it.

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Posted: Mar 27, 2019 - 04:32 pm


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Kenster the modal size for a 3.5" gillnet is 18.25" which means walleye of that length are the most likely to be harvested by the net assuming there are equal numbers of fish of smaller size classes and larger size classes than 18.25". The fish that are likely to "go through" which to me means "can pass through the net without capture" is much smaller than 18.25".

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Posted: Mar 28, 2019 - 09:31 am


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There should just be a limit with no size association. Well perhaps say only one fish over 22 inches.
Having everyone catch hundreds of fish trying to get a keeper is insane! How many of those released fish die?
Keep the limits low for now but let people go out and fish for a couple hours and come in for a fry.
Good for the operators and fishery alike.


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Posted: Mar 28, 2019 - 09:36 am


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QUOTE (smalleye99 @ Mar 27, 2019 - 04:32 pm)
Kenster the modal size for a 3.5" gillnet is 18.25" which means walleye of that length are the most likely to be harvested by the net assuming there are equal numbers of fish of smaller size classes and larger size classes than 18.25". The fish that are likely to "go through" which to me means "can pass through the net without capture" is much smaller than 18.25".

Did the mesh size not go to 3.75 / correct me if I am wrong


@ Grumpa. even though we like a lively discussion on this, as long as it is kept "decent" I gain some insight each time.


And please keep on posting your great updates. I can only speak for myself and can only assume that others also truly enjoy or appreciate the updates and your passion for the lake Nipissing walleye

your contributions have been stellar! agreed with or not. I for one feel that it what makes a forum educational

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Grumpa
Posted: Mar 28, 2019 - 09:59 am


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Shank that's correct.
When NFN entered into the first MOU-memorandum of understanding, with the province (April 2015), they agreed to increase the gill mesh opening size from 3.5" to 3.75" and reduce the net stringers from 5 to 3. Another 3 year extension to the MOU has just been undertaken recently.
I always enjoy your insightful comments on the board. Always presented in a thoughtful manner. We should try and get together sometime when you're on the lake.
As I recall, we had many similar experiences (MNR etc). PM me and let me know when you might be in the area...we'll sample some of the great multi species fishing action and chew the fat.

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Posted: Mar 29, 2019 - 10:47 am


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QUOTE (Grumpa @ Mar 28, 2019 - 09:59 am)
Shank that's correct.
When NFN entered into the first MOU-memorandum of understanding, with the province (Aril 2015), they agreed to increase the gill mesh opening size from 3.5" to 3.75" and reduce the net stringers from 5 to 3. Another 3 year extension to the MOU has just been undertaken recently.
I always enjoy your insightful comments on the board. Always presented in a thoughtful manner. We should try and get together sometime when you're on the lake.
As I recall, we had many similar experiences (MNR etc). PM me and let me know when you might be in the area...we'll sample some of the great multi species fishing action and chew the fat.

that would be a treat Grumpa


will stay in touch



Anyway, not matter what is catchable or not, I still do the annual ice adventure because I love it....never plan on catching a keeper, but always plan on having a ton of fun

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Posted: Mar 30, 2019 - 11:07 am


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QUOTE (Longshank @ Mar 28, 2019 - 09:36 am)
QUOTE (smalleye99 @ Mar 27, 2019 - 04:32 pm)
Kenster the modal size for a 3.5" gillnet is 18.25" which means walleye of that length are the most likely to be harvested by the net assuming there are equal numbers of fish of smaller size classes and larger size classes than 18.25". The fish that are likely to "go through" which to me means "can pass through the net without capture" is much smaller than 18.25".

Did the mesh size not go to 3.75 / correct me if I am wrong


@ Grumpa. even though we like a lively discussion on this, as long as it is kept "decent" I gain some insight each time.


And please keep on posting your great updates. I can only speak for myself and can only assume that others also truly enjoy or appreciate the updates and your passion for the lake Nipissing walleye

your contributions have been stellar! agreed with or not. I for one feel that it what makes a forum educational

X2 grumpa. Thanks for all the info and everyones insights, a very interesting read

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