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QUOTE (firstlove @ Mar 23, 2015 - 07:26 pm)
im still learning leadcore,i believe it drops 5 feet per color,10 colors per spool,but im not even sure on that.....
i hear inline keel weights work as well....offshore angler sells some cool weights,clip weights too!
Drops 5 feet per colour? At what speed?
If still then drops 100% per colour.
As is thicker - the faster troll - higher can ride due to surface area and friction . . .
Maybe we could ask for more info from users? Earlier poster mentioned 100' to 150' leader? My first question on that is why bother with lead then? What is the advantage? What am I not understanding?
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QUOTE (bluenote @ Mar 23, 2015 - 07:40 pm)
QUOTE (firstlove @ Mar 23, 2015 - 07:26 pm)
im still learning leadcore,i believe it drops 5 feet per color,10 colors per spool,but im not even sure on that.....
i hear inline keel weights work as well....offshore angler sells some cool weights,clip weights too!
Drops 5 feet per colour? At what speed?
If still then drops 100% per colour.
As is thicker - the faster troll - higher can ride due to surface area and friction . . .
Maybe we could ask for more info from users? Earlier poster mentioned 100' to 150' leader? My first question on that is why bother with lead then? What is the advantage? What am I not understanding?
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Just my two cents here, but I have never found it necessary to run a lead any longer than 25' when I'm running lead core. I could probably run even shorter, but then again I'm a creature of habit. I started with 25' leads, and I've never found reason to change that...
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I run 9 foot Shimano Talora rods medium action. Made specific for lead core or copper applications according to Shimano. One colour of lead core will sink 4 to 5 feet depending on speed,lure,current turns ect. Therefore no line counter is needed. For ten colours i use Shimano Tekota 700"s with fifty pound power pro backing. Hope this helps.
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I'm in a different situation than most of you and that is chartering on the big lake.
So, line counter , so I can quickly see how far back fish is when client is reeling in and if busy back there.don't have time to look at colors. alos required if salmon has peeled out 700 feet or more and that happens more often than you may think.
lead length.starts at 100-150, but near end of season has been cut back to 25-40 feet. due to abrasion /rub wear and just retying quite often.
Not necessary for most of you, but works for me.
braid backing is 50 # power pro or Finns
general rule of thumb is a sinkage of approx 5 feet per color of core. some of the newer ones say 6 feet as they are thinner diameter.
hope it helps some.
In the end you buy and use what suits your needs the best.
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QUOTE (Team Rapo @ Mar 23, 2015 - 07:04 pm)
I've used a dipsy for the past couple years with virtually no success, I have a 8ft okuma combo with line counter reel, any suggestions for lb test or brand line to use? Also my dipsy came with the chart to estimate approx depth / ft of line out, can I do the same with lead core? Don't mean to hijack but you guys seem knowledgeable on the subject! Thanks!
One of the best investments I've made is buying "The Trollers Bible" by Mark Romanack. This book will give you dive curve charts for almost all your needs using mono braid, wire ect. It covers dipsey divers of all sizes,jet divers,lead core, slide divers, copper wire stainless wire and snap weights. Very easy to use and will put your presentations close to where you want them without any guessing. In my opinion.......a wise investment.
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Very true that Lundman.
Here's another "test " you can try out.
if using 50# braid on dipseys and running standard size spoons for instance and you go by charts to fish say 30 feet down at 2.2 MPH, then try running your spread onto a sand bar or sand shoal and keep going shallower until you see your rods 'ticking bottom' and remember that.
often I have found the charts off to some degree and I trust my eyes much more than a chart.
with more and more practise you will get it right and start tagging fish.
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Me as well buddy
Can't tell you how many times I thought I was fishing dipseys around 40 feet down and do a tack inshore and as we get into 50 FOW everbody's yelling .multiple fish on....!!!!
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Thanks for the info guys, I will also look for that book lundman! I've had a few instances where I've dragged bottom but the lake I fish is almost all rock so it gets scary Cuz I don't want to loose my expensive lures taggin bottom. I fully understand how the dipsy works and the closest I've come to fish with it was when I was trolling 100 FOW with my line counter showing approx 90 feet out and according to the Dipsey chart I was approx 40 feet down. The rod bucked and then nothing. I reeled in the dipsey that was snapped forward unfortunatly with nothing attached to it. I had 20# mono as a lead from the back of the dipsey that was gone. I bought the snubber with the dipsey but opted for the mono with stretch. Main line was braid can't remember #test but was North of 20. Once again thanks for the info guys. I don't know if I will continue with the dipsey im considering lead core... Seems more simple.
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QUOTE (Longshank @ Mar 25, 2015 - 03:11 pm)
Me as well buddy
Can't tell you how many times I thought I was fishing dipseys around 40 feet down and do a tack inshore and as we get into 50 FOW everbody's yelling .multiple fish on....!!!!
Ya, more like zebra mussels
Save some zebra mussels for me Longshank. Will see you on your end of the pond soon........very soon i hope!
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QUOTE (Team Rapo @ Mar 26, 2015 - 06:59 am)
Thanks for the info guys, I will also look for that book lundman! I've had a few instances where I've dragged bottom but the lake I fish is almost all rock so it gets scary Cuz I don't want to loose my expensive lures taggin bottom. I fully understand how the dipsy works and the closest I've come to fish with it was when I was trolling 100 FOW with my line counter showing approx 90 feet out and according to the Dipsey chart I was approx 40 feet down. The rod bucked and then nothing. I reeled in the dipsey that was snapped forward unfortunatly with nothing attached to it. I had 20# mono as a lead from the back of the dipsey that was gone. I bought the snubber with the dipsey but opted for the mono with stretch. Main line was braid can't remember #test but was North of 20. Once again thanks for the info guys. I don't know if I will continue with the dipsey im considering lead core... Seems more simple.
Hi Team rapo.
Well, you for sure wer not hit by bottom.
Only suggestion I could offer is.
adjust main drag to proper setting.. ( it should click out just a bit on a tight turn? if that makes any sense. I have gone on to many boats over the years and find that when people first begin using dipsesy etc. their drags are set way too tight.
The other think is your backing can easily go higher.like 50/10
20# leader is fine depending on size of fish targetted as average.
I use anything from 20-40 depending on time of year, plus hardware run behind dipsey.
Anyhow, I would not give up, some days dipseys do all the damge and other days riggers and other days leadcore.
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