Oro Shore Report-July 27th, Slow Day--1 for 1

By 8 AM we had riggers set in 85fow.

We were doing the "Grandpa Jim" technique of dragging the cannonballs.

We found that our spoons were frequently fouled by bottom debris.When I fished with Jim the other week that didn't happen. He uses very light "flutter" spoons and I don't have many that light. I need to work more on this technique.

My friend Al got a nice 7lb laker around 9AM and that was it for the day. The only hit we had. We quit at Noon.

Talked to Mydogbites a couple of times--I think he was on his maiden voyage with riggers. Last time I spoke with him he hadn't got anything.

Pic is Al and his fish. It just inhaled his spoon and it was in the gills.

SDC

Great that you are getting out to fish!

Could the technique also involve the weight and speed of the downrigging balls? Not just the lure . . .

Thanks

I normally run 10lb balls. Jim was running 7.5lbs. I ran 8lbs today.

Kept the speed in the 1.3 to 1.8 mph range.

I need to figure out how to keep the release clip a little higher in the water column. I have some thoughts on that.

SDC

Thanks Ralph, yes we had the maiden downrigger voyage. A little tricky to get set up and going for the first time but soon got a lot better at it. The only hit we had as from some mussels.

We salvaged the day by going for Bass

sdcaller,

I did a lot of bottom bounce trolling for lakers on lake O, used a lot of light spoons but spin n glos work excellent and float enough to keep out of the bottom debris




I used size 000 spin n glo s to try to discourage small lakers, the spoons pictured are ultra light plazma spoons.

I normally run 10lb balls. Jim was running 7.5lbs. I ran 8lbs today.

Kept the speed in the 1.3 to 1.8 mph range.

I need to figure out how to keep the release clip a little higher in the water column. I have some thoughts on that.

SDC

use one of these



and suspend it on the wire 3 or 4 ft above the ball, maybe a bit more if your running light balls. I usually use a 15pounder , less sway back.

Nice going Ralph!
At least ya got out!....I'm stuck here at work....sweating pretty good!

Nice riggers MDB's......hope you pop the cherry real quick........

Cheers
Greg

Nice report SD.
A lot of the spoons you run are heavier trolling spoons.........judging from past posts.
You cannot go wrong with the lighter spoons like the silver fox by sonic.
They are great at slow speeds. Give them a little bend also when coming out of the package.
A silver fox for example is .015 of an inch in thickness.
Currently a NKMAG for example is .035 of an inch.
Thats a really big difference in action when trolling at slow speeds.
I am a really big fan of the Apex trolling spoon. Really great at slow and fast speeds.
Great report........always look forward to them.
Hitting Erie tomorrow and hope to have a report up soon.

Hi Gordy

Thanks for your comments. I have some spin & glows and must look at them and use them.

I also have Scotty clips like you show. I was thinking that a stacker set 12 inches above the ball might also work.

SDC

Chris

Thanks for your comments.

I have 1 Sutton flutter spoon and when I used it, it stayed pretty much debris free. I weighed it and it weighs 4 grams. All my other 'flutter" type spoons are 5 grams or more.

I think spoon weight is the key issue here. I need to work on it.

Ralph

I was bass fishing today in cooks bay ... Believe it or not I can't count how many trout I saw in 10-15 feet of water . Never seen anything like that before ! Steady torpedoes rippin through weeds! It was very cool to see!

Well done Ralph & Al, better than a skunk..

Yes, I think Grandpa Jim has that technique finely tuned, and it may take some experimentation to get the rods firing.. Anytime we placed the balls near the bottom we snagged zebra mussels..

Great tips here though..


Robert, nice riggers and setup.. You'll get a laker soon..
Will send you a PM with Italy's secret spoon..

sdcaller,

just curious as Ive never fished for lakers in Simcoe, do run any sort of attractor ahead of your spoons or do you just have a spoon on the line?

Hi Gordy

I just fish my spoons plain. I have flashers, gang trolls etc. but I just never bother to use them for Simcoe Lakers. I have tried them in the distant past, but no results.

Plain just seems to work better for me on Simcoe.

SDC