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mastercaster1
Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 09:52 am


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Good for you for being progressive and thoughtful about the fishery you love.
The MNR is NOT a good gauge for the health of a fishery.
Just ask the Walleye fishermen on Scugog?
(It's fine, It's fine, It's fine, It's closed)
Use your own discretion based on a balance of legality/needs and enjoying your passion for fishing.

My 2 cents

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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 10:09 am


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Sorry but I have a mission. 50 x 13+ inch perch... just one time! After that I'll let some go back . 😬

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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 10:16 am


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I’m from Michigan and I have a Cabin in Ontario, I can testify to the superiority of the MNR over our DNR. Both in game as well as the fisheries our DNR seem to have the same regulations year after year, decade after decade. They may mix up the deer season regulations a bit but that’s about it. With all of the studies and research they do nothing ever changes. The salmon in Lake Huron are pretty much nonexistent yet the regulations remained the same on our side until the bitter end. I don’t hunt in Canada but I do like to fish there often and I’ve found that I need to read the annual fishing regulations book every year to see what has changed. Most of the core rules stay the same but the special regulations section is larger than our entire book. Through these special regulations they keep your fisheries at a much higher level of reproduction than we see on this side of the river. With that said I think as long as you stay within the guidelines they put forth your populations will stay plentiful. I do not practice keeping the 10 pound walleye or the 15 inch perch but that’s based on my preference of taste. I love the way you all handle the conservation of your wildlife and I’m happy that I can be a part of it.

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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 10:49 am


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The biggest perch lately are not in Simcoe.
Are on the South shore or Ontario and Erie.
Because in those parts there is no such pressure that we have on Simcoe.
The slot won't fix the problem, but some relive of the pressure will do.
I won't mind if the daily limit will be lowered to 30, that probably it is more appropriate. And I don't target the perch during the winter time.
I think those buggers that give us so much pleasure during the summer time, deserve a break.
Unfortunately winter is boring here in Canada and percination during the January and February is a nice activity for many.
We need more lakes like Simcoe or mind your catch.





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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 11:05 am


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QUOTE (steelheader @ Dec 20, 2017 - 10:13 am)
My take on this for what it's worth,
Those perch over 12" probably represent only about 10% or less of the population , granted they do produce more eggs than say a 7" fish , but those 6-9" fish represent 80% + of the population and of the thousands of perch I've caught all of the females of that slot carry eggs.

So my point is , the sheer numbers of the main spawn group is what keeps our perch population healthy and this is "NOT" the 12 " fish..

As said the MNR sets the limits based on studies and feedback, so , keep some larger fish if you like but don't overkill

Hey ; If you want more fish period ,pressure the powers to be to get off their collective asses and allow control of those dam cormorants Have you seen the pix of how many junior perch are found in one birds belly ?

so agree with you

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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 11:10 am


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QUOTE (TheTallFisherman @ Dec 20, 2017 - 09:40 am)
Perhaps the forum should also mention how to identify if the perch is male or female?

Is it just me? Or are 95% of the perch female?

Wouldn't it make sense to throw back the males. It's a tough job for one male to take care of 25 females.

I only go up to Simcoe twice per season, every year I only find a few males in our bucket.

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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 06:01 pm


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Strange I find most of the Jumbos early spring to be Females full of eggs but I do a late fish in June on a few very shallow spots where I catch huge males in schools.

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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 10:03 pm


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QUOTE (Fisherman @ Dec 20, 2017 - 08:24 am)
QUOTE (Dee004 @ Dec 19, 2017 - 10:39 pm)
Hey guys you can jump on me if you want but lets be proactive and release those 12, 13 and 14 inch beautifull ladies full of roe. That way we'll have an endless supply of Perch in the future for ourselves, kids and grandchildren for many years to come. Just saying.

I've got a better idea, MNR sets the limits and sizes of possession and when necessary closes it. If you want to preach try religion instead.

How'd that go for Scugog walleye? lol

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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 10:16 pm


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How many of those 11" keepers, would be Jumbos next year? So how are you increasing the Jumbos, by eliminating the juveniles?

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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 10:24 pm


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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 10:26 pm


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QUOTE (Disco @ Dec 21, 2017 - 06:01 pm)
Strange I find most of the Jumbos early spring to be Females full of eggs but I do a late fish in June on a few very shallow spots where I catch huge males in schools.

Their having their post spawn bachelor party

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Posted: Dec 22, 2017 - 07:15 am


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I get the preaching resentment. But he hss a good point. The MNR does set the limits but good stewardship and conservation isn't a bad thing to mention. By the time the MNR has to close something the population has been devastated.Justvsaying....

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Posted: Dec 22, 2017 - 07:44 am


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am not that lucky to get those 13 or 14 that make me keep the 9 to 11 and am happy they the best just like the nice 15 inc walleye to have ice meal

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Posted: Dec 22, 2017 - 09:29 am


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I think the quality of Lake Simcoe's fishery is more of an environmental issue. Lake Simcoe has been victim to significant eutrophication. Lake Simcoe has seen a dramatic decline in some fish species, along with an increase in algae blooms and aquatic weed growth. Phosphorus emissions from both urban and rural sources have upset the lake's ecosystem and fostered excessive aquatic plant growth, raising water temperatures, and decreasing oxygen levels, thereby rendering limited breeding grounds inhospitable.
Lake Simcoe has been victim to zebra mussel, purple loosestrife, black crappie, spiny water flea, round goby, rusty crayfish and Eurasian milfoil invasion. I believe these issues have a more negative impact on the fish population than anglers that keep larger female fish that are full of eggs and that they also abide by the MNRF regulations.

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Posted: Dec 22, 2017 - 09:52 am


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The 9 - 11 inchers just taste better. But to each his/her own.

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