Will Boat Launches be Open?, Not so distant future....

I find it unacceptable to believe that it would be okay to boat because you live on the water or your boat is already in the water. That is what I describe as entitlement, and is the exact same reason people continue break protocol.

It is all about setting and example.
A good or bad example is everyone's choice I guess.

Neil

If we go into a complete lockdown which they are trying to avoid we will know some who contributed to it...

Like I said, private boat launches are open on LO, in the Hamilton area.

As far as 450+ deaths. How do you all act during flu season which kills average 8000 a year?

I had an 89 year old uncle pass last Monday. Cancer the last 29 months. Was given a year to live 29 months ago. His death was labelled a covid death, the family asked for test results, we were eventually told he wasn’t tested. I’m telling you guys as a fellow
Fisherman, the numbers are fake. I have seen it firsthand.

I won’t go into theories, but I’ll say this; locking yourselves indoors and not going to work, is not the answer.

I will post pics Saturday for anyone who thinks I’m full of it.

Yup!

You are spouting number which you are clearly clueless about.
Try to concentrate really really hard and you might get this.

We have flu vaccines, we also have a lot of immunity in the population due to previous infections
from the same strain, this prevents the flu from running rampant.
The flu infects roughly 8% of the population during the flu season which is about 4-5 month long
Hospitalization rate is about 0.4%, mortality rate is 0.1%
Canada has a population of 37.6M people, on an average year 3Mil will be infected with flu, 12000 will need
hospitalization, 3500 will die.

We have no vaccine for COVID19, we have no natural immunity in the population due to previous infections.
Without the drastic measures in place today, it would infect 80% of the population within 3 month.
Based on available canadian statistics from https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/serv...d-19-cases.html
It has a hospitalization rate of 10% (thats 25 times higher than flu)
Mortality rate is 3% (30 times higher than flu)
So if nothing is done to stop/slow down the spread, in the span of 3 month 30Mil will be infected.
3Mil will need hospitalization, 900K will die.
This is in that magical scenario where we have unlimited hospital beds and healthcare workers.
Which of course we dont.

Based on https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-resources there's about 125000 hospital beds in Canada.
They dont just sit there collecting dust, the "vacancy" rate is pretty low, we didnt build more hospitals
than we need on an ongoing basis, go figure.
But lets say we somehow manage to scrape together 100K hospital beds, by kicking out existing non critical
patients and converting other spaces into makeshift hospitals and equipping them properly.
And then pulling additional doctors and nurses out of thin air to man them all.
3 month is 13 weeks, average COVID19 hospitalization duration is 1 week, at 100K beds we can care for
1.3Mil out of the 3Mil patients. That leaves 1.7Mil out in the cold, not able to get hospital care.
People who need hospitalization and are not able to get it have a bad habit of dying at a much higher rate.


If you are still confused, to recap, if COVID19 is treated exactly the same way as the flu, it will kill
around 1Mil Canadians, i think thats a bit more than the 8000 you keep mentioning

Sorry to hear about your uncle.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that either the 29 or the 19 was a typo.
Was your uncle just walking down the street, hit his head and die and the evil doctors just want to pin it on COVID?
Or did he maybe have a pneumonia, or some other symptoms? Was he in a long term care facility, like maybe one of the ones badly affected by this outbreak?
The non existence of a test proves absolutely nothing.

Ah yes, you got it all figured out. All the governments of the world, even the ones that absolutely
hate each other and will not even agree on the color of the sky just on principle alone, they all got together
and came up with this biggest conspiracy in the history of the planet, absolutely trashing their own economies in the process.
To what end? What is this "greater game" you speak of Oh Great Oracle?

You wont go into theories, but you kinda do.
Starving a pandemic of potential hosts to infect is the only answer, unless of course you dont care how many die from it.

Good for you LAZINATOR! put that in your pipe and smoke it!! Love the work you did to come up with those figures. I wish I was that good with math.

Nice try Lazinator but as they say you can't fix stupid.
Neil

anyone have any idea or lets say theory when this will be fishing this disaster just asking personal opinions ????????

sounds to me no fishing this season i mean in summer

There was some turkey on another fishing website who posted a petition to get the ramps re-opened. Boy oh boy, did he ever get an earful!!

i think this turkey does not have a brain !!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh boy... Lazinator... that was a cathartic read! Tommyboy's post made me grind my teeth but I couldn't find the effort to explain his foolishness to him.

Tommy, I'm very sorry to hear about your uncle's passing. But you are clearly out of touch or living on another planet.

the only way to beat this virus is staying home the reason is because entire world does not have antidote against this biological virus , we all here want to go fishing that's including me but what we can do ?????? that why on my previous posts i ask how long this disaster will continue how long ? any personal opinions ??? im not trying to make it difficult here but i would like to here people opinions and may learn from it but as of now looks where this entire world is going only one think i can say good buy fishing this season because so far they can not stop spreading the virus yet so only i can say to all of you my friends GOD HELP US ALL !!!!!!!

18 months for restrictions to be loosended and 2 years before everything sort of goes back to normal. It will take at least 1 year for a vaccine to be put into place. The earliest I have read for human trials is September.

However watching the news last night a Canadian company has developed a rapid covid test that detects the antibodies in the human body to see if it is fighting covid. What they are starting to do in europe is give the tests out and if you are negative you are free to go about your business and a positive test means quarantine. The cavity is the test is NOT approved for use in Canada. They experts they had on are calling on the government to fast track it as it could quicken the loosening of restrictions.