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mydogbites
Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 09:39 am


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It will end sooner if there is no host for the virus. How long will depend on you, me and everyone else. I want to go fishing as well, I want to see my kids, grand kids and my mother whos in a lock down retirement home. I want to go turkey hunting and I want to go camping just like the next guy. Willie Trudeau who emerges daily from his burrow around 11ish is saying June. So perhaps, spring Salmon is gone, perhaps walleye is gone, perhaps perching is gone, Turkey and bear hunt maybe gone. If we all do our part to prevent ourselves from becoming a host to this virus maybe, just maybe, we will get a few cast for bass. You asked for My opinion.

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QUOTE (mydogbites @ Apr 10, 2020 - 09:39 am)
It will end sooner if there is no host for the virus. How long will depend on you, me and everyone else. I want to go fishing as well, I want to see my kids, grand kids and my mother whos in a lock down retirement home. I want to go turkey hunting and I want to go camping just like the next guy. Willie Trudeau who emerges daily from his burrow around 11ish is saying June. So perhaps, spring Salmon is gone, perhaps walleye is gone, perhaps perching is gone, Turkey and bear hunt maybe gone. If we all do our part to prevent ourselves from becoming a host to this virus maybe, just maybe, we will get a few cast for bass. You asked for My opinion.

LCBO open and as you can see people staying inline 6 feet from each other may be they should implement this idea in boat lunches LOL one person per one boat idea lets say you have a boat you can go fish no one can go with you LOL
i troll most of life in lake Ontario so she should implement LCB idea LOL

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 09:58 am


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QUOTE (MeatEater @ Apr 10, 2020 - 09:28 am)
QUOTE (richard1672 @ Apr 10, 2020 - 10:03 am)
anyone have any idea or lets say theory when this will be finishing this disaster just asking personal opinions ????????

18 months for restrictions to be loosended and 2 years before everything sort of goes back to normal. It will take at least 1 year for a vaccine to be put into place. The earliest I have read for human trials is September.

However watching the news last night a Canadian company has developed a rapid covid test that detects the antibodies in the human body to see if it is fighting covid. What they are starting to do in europe is give the tests out and if you are negative you are free to go about your business and a positive test means quarantine. The cavity is the test is NOT approved for use in Canada. They experts they had on are calling on the government to fast track it as it could quicken the loosening of restrictions.

A bunch of different companies are working on vaccines, there's been ongoing human trials since around mid march.
But each phase takes time to go through and then to analyze the data, make sure there's no safety red flags. Thats why it takes 12-18 month for a vaccine to be approved, even if its the exact same vaccine thats already being trialed today.

It is not practical to keep a country in a lockdown for 18 month. Sooner or later the idiots in charge that still keep telling us that there is no need to wear masks (that is simply criminal) are going to have to figure out that we can return to some normalcy with universal usage of protective equipment that protects the 2 attack vectors this virus uses, eyes and airways.
Something like a hazmat hood for example. And of course stringent hygiene practices.

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 10:04 am


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His post was just about a test that is quick to do 'on the spot'. More testing means we are not flying so blind.

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QUOTE (Knuguy @ Apr 10, 2020 - 10:04 am)
His post was just about a test that is quick to do 'on the spot'. More testing means we are not flying so blind.

My comments about the vaccine was in answer to "The earliest I have read for human trials is September."

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QUOTE (Lazinator @ Apr 10, 2020 - 09:58 am)
QUOTE (MeatEater @ Apr 10, 2020 - 09:28 am)
QUOTE (richard1672 @ Apr 10, 2020 - 10:03 am)
anyone have any idea or lets say theory when this will be finishing this disaster just asking personal opinions ????????

18 months for restrictions to be loosended and 2 years before everything sort of goes back to normal. It will take at least 1 year for a vaccine to be put into place. The earliest I have read for human trials is September.

However watching the news last night a Canadian company has developed a rapid covid test that detects the antibodies in the human body to see if it is fighting covid. What they are starting to do in europe is give the tests out and if you are negative you are free to go about your business and a positive test means quarantine. The cavity is the test is NOT approved for use in Canada. They experts they had on are calling on the government to fast track it as it could quicken the loosening of restrictions.

A bunch of different companies are working on vaccines, there's been ongoing human trials since around mid march.
But each phase takes time to go through and then to analyze the data, make sure there's no safety red flags. Thats why it takes 12-18 month for a vaccine to be approved, even if its the exact same vaccine thats already being trialed today.

It is not practical to keep a country in a lockdown for 18 month. Sooner or later the idiots in charge that still keep telling us that there is no need to wear masks (that is simply criminal) are going to have to figure out that we can return to some normalcy with universal usage of protective equipment that protects the 2 attack vectors this virus uses, eyes and airways.
Something like a hazmat hood for example. And of course stringent hygiene practices.

time will show everything thats my personal opinion BUT as far as this entire world is going i can tell you NOT GOOD , what i dont understand is China stopped the spreading with locking down everything why US and Canada can not do that ?????? WHY ?

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 10:38 am


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China has a lot more control over their people than we do. Even S Korea, which is a democracy, has much more control and have controlled the outbreak very well.

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 10:39 am


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QUOTE (Lazinator @ Apr 10, 2020 - 11:09 am)
QUOTE (Knuguy @ Apr 10, 2020 - 10:04 am)
His post was just about a test that is quick to do 'on the spot'. More testing means we are not flying so blind.

My comments about the vaccine was in answer to "The earliest I have read for human trials is September."

oops---sorry---still working on my second cup!

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 10:42 am


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QUOTE (Knuguy @ Apr 10, 2020 - 10:38 am)
China has a lot more control over their people than we do. Even S Korea, which is a democracy, has much more control and have controlled the outbreak very well.

well i guess if our government have more control of the people that would be meaning beating the virus stopping spreading the virus so not i would say our "SMART GOVERNMENT" need to smarten up and controll the own people so stop the spread but i guess they want to go Italian way as far as i can see and US way as far as i can see

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we can use the US as a bad example

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 11:25 am


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QUOTE (Knuguy @ Apr 10, 2020 - 11:12 am)
we can use the US as a bad example

agree with you

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 01:41 pm


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So, where are these wonderfull photos of this so called government scam on all Canadians?

Must have run out of weed

btw, my daughters 42 year old friend did not make it. He passed away Friday


Great detail there Lazinator

And mdb…..you know how badly I want to get outside and go fish Lake O, but it may just not happen and I can deal with that.

I have been home for well over 2 months now and still find stuff to do, whereas most have just been doing this for a very short time

AS for vaccines.....everything I read say 12-18 months or longer and then there is production behind that and distribution…..2-5 years. In any event, it will be here when it's here so no point in hoping for it

Gl all, we will get through this and we will fish again. It's just important to take a time out for now

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 01:57 pm


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QUOTE (Lazinator @ Apr 10, 2020 - 10:58 am)
QUOTE (MeatEater @ Apr 10, 2020 - 09:28 am)
QUOTE (richard1672 @ Apr 10, 2020 - 10:03 am)
anyone have any idea or lets say theory when this will be finishing this disaster just asking personal opinions ????????

18 months for restrictions to be loosended and 2 years before everything sort of goes back to normal. It will take at least 1 year for a vaccine to be put into place. The earliest I have read for human trials is September.

However watching the news last night a Canadian company has developed a rapid covid test that detects the antibodies in the human body to see if it is fighting covid. What they are starting to do in europe is give the tests out and if you are negative you are free to go about your business and a positive test means quarantine. The cavity is the test is NOT approved for use in Canada. They experts they had on are calling on the government to fast track it as it could quicken the loosening of restrictions.

A bunch of different companies are working on vaccines, there's been ongoing human trials since around mid march.
But each phase takes time to go through and then to analyze the data, make sure there's no safety red flags. Thats why it takes 12-18 month for a vaccine to be approved, even if its the exact same vaccine thats already being trialed today.

It is not practical to keep a country in a lockdown for 18 month. Sooner or later the idiots in charge that still keep telling us that there is no need to wear masks (that is simply criminal) are going to have to figure out that we can return to some normalcy with universal usage of protective equipment that protects the 2 attack vectors this virus uses, eyes and airways.
Something like a hazmat hood for example. And of course stringent hygiene practices.

All levels of government have messaging and the release little tidbits here and there to condition people so they dont have to go cold turkey into full lockdown right away. Stay 6ft away, stay home, avoid travel etc this is all messaging to condition people slowly into a lockdown. The Prime Minister (like him or hate him) dropped this yesterday “Normality as it was before will not come back full-on until we get a vaccine for this… That will be a very long way off,” Everything hey says is crafted and for a reason.

Here is a sobering article on vaccines. According to the article it takes 8-10 years to deveolp a vaccine and 18 months maybe overly optimistic.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/us/coronavir...invs/index.html

This article does not state human trials are underway, if you have an article about trials I would love to read it. I still think September at best if tjings are accelerated and go perfect which is unlikely.

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Posted: Apr 10, 2020 - 02:07 pm


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Tests have started using plasma from patients that have recovered from this virus..
Hopefully this will help possibly speed things up if indeed the anti bodies from a recovered patient will fight the virus..science says it should..
The message is very clear to helping get thru this and it's STAY HOME..

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QUOTE (MeatEater @ Apr 10, 2020 - 01:57 pm)
Here is a sobering article on vaccines. According to the article it takes 8-10 years to deveolp a vaccine and 18 months maybe overly optimistic.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/us/coronavir...invs/index.html

This article does not state human trials are underway, if you have an article about trials I would love to read it. I still think September at best if tjings are accelerated and go perfect which is unlikely.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6723756/coronavi...ne-human-trial/
https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/in...-vaccine-trial/

Yes, a lot of shortcuts will need to be taken to get it into the 18 month time frame, but the alternative is pretty grim.

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