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QUOTE (Knuguy @ Oct 04, 2022 - 08:29 am)
wow---this story has got legs. Saw it covered in S Colbert's Late Show last nite.
Can't go a hour online without seeing something about it.. I seem one story that said they pulled a set of pliers out of one fish. I'm assuming these fish don't have to be alive when brought in but maybe I'm wrong It's been said a million times you need a 3rd random person/judge on the boats..
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QUOTE (fishmagnet @ Oct 04, 2022 - 05:27 pm)
QUOTE (Knuguy @ Oct 04, 2022 - 08:29 am)
wow---this story has got legs. Saw it covered in S Colbert's Late Show last nite.
Can't go a hour online without seeing something about it.. I seem one story that said they pulled a set of pliers out of one fish. I'm assuming these fish don't have to be alive when brought in but maybe I'm wrong It's been said a million times you need a 3rd random person/judge on the boats..
I agree with you Dave on the 3rd party being on the boat. Those Lake Erie walleye tournaments the fish don't have to be alive. I think it would be hard to get enough volunteers to have a Marshall on each boat. But I would love to see that. Make these tournaments catch and release. Weigh and measure right on the boat and let hem go again.
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There is a simple solution to fishing tournaments. Instead of weight, just make it total length of how ever many fish is to be caught. No difference in the out come somebody wins, and no added rocks or weights or anything in the fish. I catch big crappie, and am always hoping to beat my record and find an 18 inch monster. I could care less how much it weighs.
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QUOTE (crappeeeman @ Oct 05, 2022 - 06:08 am)
There is a simple solution to fishing tournaments. Instead of weight, just make it total length of how ever many fish is to be caught. No difference in the out come somebody wins, and no added rocks or weights or anything in the fish. I catch big crappie, and am always hoping to beat my record and find an 18 inch monster. I could care less how much it weighs.
Unfortunately this would not solve the problem of cheaters, they would just have to pick up pre-caught fish from somewhere or someone. I still think a 3rd neutral person in the boat would solve everything.
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I agree, yet again lol.
I always go by length because a 14 inch crappie might weigh a lot more in the fall than in the spring or what have you but it's still a 14 inch crappie. And for bigger fish like bass and muskies only way most people can really weigh them is vertically which damages the fish so, not even worth it. I can hold a fish for a pic and release it safely without hurting it to know it's weight.
Plus if they did go by length, they can test biologically if necessary to prove the fish are true lake Erie fish etc. So it could happen. Even small bass tournies have that capability.
Some day maybe soon it will be a digital witness of some kind recording everything that happens in the boat.
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QUOTE (fishmagnet @ Oct 05, 2022 - 06:46 am)
QUOTE (crappeeeman @ Oct 05, 2022 - 06:08 am)
There is a simple solution to fishing tournaments. Instead of weight, just make it total length of how ever many fish is to be caught. No difference in the out come somebody wins, and no added rocks or weights or anything in the fish. I catch big crappie, and am always hoping to beat my record and find an 18 inch monster. I could care less how much it weighs.
Unfortunately this would not solve the problem of cheaters, they would just have to pick up pre-caught fish from somewhere or someone. I still think a 3rd neutral person in the boat would solve everything.
I think your idea of a third person is the best idea, but that's not going to happen. Neither is my idea of measurement instead of weight. I don't care that those greedy no morals twins cheated. It's how they cheated, still on all the reports from the media all they talk about is the loser twins getting caught. This has turned into a joke, a meme, a what ever. This might even make it as a skit on Saturday Night Live. Dead tortured fish is not a punch line. I am still waiting for someone to speak for the fish. The Ohio Department of Natural Resources has collected evidence of the incident. They will be sending a report to the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor. Maybe then there will be some retributive justice served to the sadistic fishing twins.
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3rd guy / official on each boat sounds good, except money corrupts … just as we see in this situation already. If you’re talking $45 000 for one tournament, that splits nicely in three… $15K for the official, to look at the shoreline for a few minutes…. $30K payout for the team
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Gone viral for sure. I saw a Youtube clip from another talk show where the host was amazed that they would ruin their reputations for so little money. This might affect their future job prospects. Who would want to hire such dishonest scumbags? Who could give them a good character ref?
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IMO there are some hobbies and interests that should never be turned into competetive activities!
I'm a square dance caller and square dancer. There are square dance competitions and I have no interest in them what so ever. I'm a good caller and a good dancer but I do it strictly for fun and personal enjoyment.
My wife is a very good old time fiddler and there are fiddle contests which she will have nothing to do with. As she says, it isn't about whose best or who is better than someone else, it's about having fun!
I have never entered a contest and never will. To my way of thinking fishing should be done for fun and personal enjoyment, not to see who is "supposedly" better than someone else.
Now if you want to talk sports car racing and rallying, that's a different thing. Too old to do it now, but I did it when I was much younger.
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QUOTE (sdcaller @ Oct 05, 2022 - 08:36 pm)
IMO there are some hobbies and interests that should never be turned into competetive activities!
I'm a square dance caller and square dancer. There are square dance competitions and I have no interest in them what so ever. I'm a good caller and a good dancer but I do it strictly for fun and personal enjoyment.
My wife is a very good old time fiddler and there are fiddle contests which she will have nothing to do with. As she says, it isn't about whose best or who is better than someone else, it's about having fun!
I have never entered a contest and never will. To my way of thinking fishing should be done for fun and personal enjoyment, not to see who is "supposedly" better than someone else.
Now if you want to talk sports car racing and rallying, that's a different thing. Too old to do it now, but I did it when I was much younger.
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I like your thoughts, I drag raced my Harley and cars. As far as a fishing tournament, I don't go in them only because when I catch a big fat walleye or crappie, we like to eat it. My friends have tried to get me in the spring walleye tournament on Sturgeon because I catch so many walleye on that lake. All I said was I am not giving up my walleye spots for a day. Those areas will keep us in good dinners until I am too old to fish. Then I will pass on my spots to my best friends two boys. They can fish them until they pass them on to their children.
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