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Czestnut
Posted: May 24, 2023 - 05:02 pm


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Say... I understand that fishing must be at least 23m from a dam, but are the ghost locks along the Holland River East Branch considered dams?

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Posted: May 24, 2023 - 05:07 pm


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Disco
Posted: May 24, 2023 - 05:37 pm


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Good question.

Doesn’t seem like it would fall under the regs for a typical Dam blocking any migratory species. I really don’t know.

I would call the local MNR office.

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Posted: May 26, 2023 - 01:17 pm


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You should not ask anyone advices, you must follow the law, go to the roots:
https://www.ontario.ca/document/ontario-fis...tions#section-1
And there you see:
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Prohibited...
- fish in any manner within 23 meters downstream from the lower entrance to any fishway, obstruction, or leap

So, as you understand - ANY OBSTRUCTION - prohibited.

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Posted: May 26, 2023 - 06:58 pm


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QUOTE (dmaster @ May 26, 2023 - 01:17 pm)
You should not ask anyone advices, you must follow the law, go to the roots:
https://www.ontario.ca/document/ontario-fis...tions#section-1
And there you see:
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Prohibited...
- fish in any manner within 23 meters downstream from the lower entrance to any fishway, obstruction, or leap

So, as you understand - ANY OBSTRUCTION - prohibited.

Still need to ask the MNR. Perfectly legal to fish all the locks in the Trent right up to the locks/obstruction. They even have a special regs for those areas. Better to ask the MNR as the regs book does not cover details of specifics in some case.

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Knuguy
Posted: May 26, 2023 - 08:57 pm


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QUOTE (dmaster @ May 26, 2023 - 02:17 pm)
You should not ask anyone advices, you must follow the law, go to the roots:
https://www.ontario.ca/document/ontario-fis...tions#section-1
And there you see:
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Prohibited...
- fish in any manner within 23 meters downstream from the lower entrance to any fishway, obstruction, or leap

So, as you understand - ANY OBSTRUCTION - prohibited.

Wouldn't that mean that you are not allowed to fish at the base of rapids??

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Czestnut
Posted: May 27, 2023 - 09:50 am


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QUOTE (dmaster @ May 26, 2023 - 01:17 pm)

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Prohibited...
- fish in any manner within 23 meters downstream from the lower entrance to any fishway, obstruction, or leap

So, as you understand - ANY OBSTRUCTION - prohibited.

Good point on the obstruction. I will call the MNR

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Czestnut
Posted: May 27, 2023 - 09:51 am


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QUOTE (Disco @ May 26, 2023 - 06:58 pm)

Still need to ask the MNR. Perfectly legal to fish all the locks in the Trent right up to the locks/obstruction. They even have a special regs for those areas. Better to ask the MNR as the regs book does not cover details of specifics in some case.

OK, so there may be a specific

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Disco
Posted: May 27, 2023 - 11:47 am


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QUOTE (Knuguy @ May 26, 2023 - 08:57 pm)
QUOTE (dmaster @ May 26, 2023 - 02:17 pm)
You should not ask anyone advices, you must follow the law, go to the roots:
https://www.ontario.ca/document/ontario-fis...tions#section-1
And there you see:
QUOTE
Prohibited...
- fish in any manner within 23 meters downstream from the lower entrance to any fishway, obstruction, or leap

So, as you understand - ANY OBSTRUCTION - prohibited.

Wouldn't that mean that you are not allowed to fish at the base of rapids??

Rapids are not an obstruction. Same with a natural waterfall.
Obstructions are man made for this regulation.

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VicFish
Posted: May 28, 2023 - 07:00 pm


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QUOTE (dmaster @ May 26, 2023 - 02:17 pm)
You should not ask anyone advices, you must follow the law, go to the roots:
https://www.ontario.ca/document/ontario-fis...tions#section-1
And there you see:
QUOTE
Prohibited...
- fish in any manner within 23 meters downstream from the lower entrance to any fishway, obstruction, or leap

So, as you understand - ANY OBSTRUCTION - prohibited.

So, seeing as how the gates to the locks were never installed, no obstruction means fish at will.

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Knuguy
Posted: May 28, 2023 - 08:49 pm


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QUOTE (Disco @ May 27, 2023 - 12:47 pm)

Obstructions are man made for this regulation.

so you are saying that MNR has a specific definition of 'obstruction'?

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Czestnut
Posted: Jun 06, 2023 - 11:39 am


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Just got my answer from MNR. I guess the lock is considered a dam as it’s an obstruction.


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Posted: Jun 06, 2023 - 11:41 am


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…further down the email

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