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Longshank
Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 01:33 pm


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I can well see how and why people get upset each yer when folks go through ice and need a rescue.

But...some points to consider.....the Police will never say the ice is safe..

it is not always out of towners (GTA)..look at last year.......same 2 donks from orillia on 3rd rescue in three years.....

We have laws agains drunk driving, but it still happens

So , in the end, no matter how many warnings , signs, posts or whatever...an annual percentge of mishaps will happen.

same with snowmobiles, same with house fires, same with skiers, same with boat owners.

Should they pay.I'm neutral on that one

Do I have sympathy for these induividulas.no

Am I happy to see no lives were lost, yes

Willhound, I agree with you, fines will not do the job......some were fined last year.minimal, the real question is were those fines everpaid? I can see that if this desire tohave set fines keeps coming up, I see Insurance companies lobbying for yet another rider.....something to think about

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civicgirl
Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 01:55 pm


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ya i saw that too i couldnt believe it after these guys just saved ur ###### and u treat them like that some ppl are so ungrateful

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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 02:12 pm


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QUOTE (Willhound @ January 13, 2013 - 01:32 pm)
Gonna sound like a real hard nose here, but my opinion is that fines don't work. Too many people have more money than brains. Want to fix this problem? If you go on the ice when you have been officially warned to stay off, no rescue. You are on your own. They will either smarten up and pay attention, or Mother Nature will do it through natural selection.

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You can't legislate intelligence and common sense into people




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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 02:18 pm


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QUOTE (Willhound @ January 13, 2013 - 01:32 pm)
Gonna sound like a real hard nose here, but my opinion is that fines don't work. Too many people have more money than brains. Want to fix this problem? If you go on the ice when you have been officially warned to stay off, no rescue. You are on your own. They will either smarten up and pay attention, or Mother Nature will do it through natural selection.

My mentality exactly. I'll admit i go out on questionable ice, and was one of the first out last year, as well as one of the last off.

However, I have invested in good gear and leave fully prepared to get my own butt back to shore each and every time I go out.

I realize there are times I put myself at risk, but I will NOT put any EMS (or anyone else for that matter) at risk to save me from my own stupidity.

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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 02:26 pm


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Everyone has valid points and your right that fines won't stop the dummies from going onto unsafe ice.
No matter what it will continue to happen.

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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 02:30 pm


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Human population control, I don't no what more needs to be said

O.K maybe they should put what to do if it is new ice it is rainy and windy and +15c. ???

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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 03:54 pm


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What a bunch of idiots and yea they should have to fork the rescue money out of their pockets ,,,,,,my god they have been telling people to stay off the ice for days now . I understand these guys want to fish ,but man life is more important than and a pail of fish .

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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 04:19 pm


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I made stupid mistakes like this when I was young so i'm not going to be a hypocrite but I learned from experience and take no more chances.if theres not 4 inches of good ice i'm no going.

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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 05:20 pm


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QUOTE (Longshank @ January 13, 2013 - 02:33 pm)
I can well see how and why people get upset each yer when folks go through ice and need a rescue.

But...some points to consider.....the Police will never say the ice is safe..

it is not always out of towners (GTA)..look at last year.......same 2 donks from orillia on 3rd rescue in three years.....

We have laws agains drunk driving, but it still happens

So , in the end, no matter how many warnings , signs, posts or whatever...an annual percentge of mishaps will happen.

same with snowmobiles, same with house fires, same with skiers, same with boat owners.

Should they pay.I'm neutral on that one

Do I have sympathy for these induividulas.no

Am I happy to see no lives were lost, yes

Willhound, I agree with you, fines will not do the job......some were fined last year.minimal, the real question is were those fines everpaid? I can see that if this desire tohave set fines keeps coming up, I see Insurance companies lobbying for yet another rider.....something to think about

Well said!!! I agree

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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 08:18 pm


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QUOTE (Longshank @ January 13, 2013 - 01:33 pm)
I can well see how and why people get upset each yer when folks go through ice and need a rescue.

But...some points to consider.....the Police will never say the ice is safe..

it is not always out of towners (GTA)..look at last year.......same 2 donks from orillia on 3rd rescue in three years.....

We have laws agains drunk driving, but it still happens

So , in the end, no matter how many warnings , signs, posts or whatever...an annual percentge of mishaps will happen.

same with snowmobiles, same with house fires, same with skiers, same with boat owners.

Should they pay.I'm neutral on that one

Do I have sympathy for these induividulas.no

Am I happy to see no lives were lost, yes

Willhound, I agree with you, fines will not do the job......some were fined last year.minimal, the real question is were those fines everpaid? I can see that if this desire tohave set fines keeps coming up, I see Insurance companies lobbying for yet another rider.....something to think about

shank perfectly said..

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dano1
Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 09:13 pm


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just hope they don't breed!!! sorry if I offend anyone, i'm happy noone died, b seriously your head, the ice was iffy at best last week prior to warm weather, I have been a follower of this site since it started, not a big comment person , as not wanting to get slammed but holy crap, I agree, hey if you do the crime do the time, be it drunk driving or stupid on the ice, fishing is a lifetime adventure not a adventure against life!!!! Sorry if I offended anyone

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dano1
Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 09:19 pm


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OH AND BTW DON'T RISK KIDS LIVES STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Longshank
Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 09:25 pm


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watched a couple of vids on the rescue and prior to that in the morning.

A guy from mexico was interviewed. I doubt very much he is on any fishing forum.

there were lots of people out.some came in early, some did not.....

I suppose the "lemming effect" played a role there.

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Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 09:26 pm


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QUOTE (dano1 @ January 13, 2013 - 11:19 pm)
OH AND BTW DON'T RISK KIDS LIVES STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

p ll be surprised if child services lets that guy keep a child after that kind of dumb ###### crap

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dano1
  Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 09:35 pm


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i RESPECT YOUR OBSERVATIONS LONGSHANK, YOU KNOW FISHING, however, I will ask you and all others this, Why does this happen every year, over and over our tax dollars pay for stupidity, be it , oooohhhh hell I bettter stop before I go off on a huge rapage of stupid stuff our gov allows to happen. Sorry this is why I dont post much is because when it comes to fishin unsafe ice or rough waters in a boat I think you should be on your own,

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