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1stdrift
Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 07:57 am


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Got a picture of black or very dark coyote. I have Never seen one this dark. Has anyone seen one like this before? How rare are they? Could it be a mix of wolf? I’m 1:15min north of the city so there’s no wolves running around here. Thought it would be a cool picture to post.

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Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 06:27 am


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I have seen a couple over the years, certainly not a common site to see. Certainly a neat photo to capture!

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Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 07:32 am


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I have never seen one, I did see a silver one once, but all others are the standard colour.

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Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 08:22 am


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This is the more unusual colouration I've seen. From across a field I thought a buddy shot a red fox. There seems to a whole family of this colour in that area.

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Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 08:40 am


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Yes I have seen a completely Black Coyote.

Let’s set the record straight on our local eastern coyotes.

All eastern coyotes came from the western coyote species.
As that species made its way east across Canada it bread with two different species of gray wolfs somewhere in the Great Lakes area. That species also bread with domesticate dogs. All eastern coyotes have the DNA from western coyotes, two species of gray wolves and domesticated dogs. In addition, if anyone is interested, the word Coywolf has been coined by the media. There is no such thing as a Coywolf. Our species is considered the eastern coyote which is a hybrid. This hybridization means they are much larger than western coyotes and come in a much larger variety of colours. 👍🏻

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Posted: Mar 27, 2023 - 09:02 am


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Most guys will get a mount of some sort due to the rarity and beauty of the black coats. Those are the only black coyotes I've personally seen.

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Posted: Mar 28, 2023 - 06:47 am


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QUOTE (Disco @ Mar 27, 2023 - 08:40 am)
Yes I have seen a completely Black Coyote.

Let’s set the record straight on our local eastern coyotes.

All eastern coyotes came from the western coyote species.
As that species made its way east across Canada it bread with two different species of gray wolfs somewhere in the Great Lakes area. That species also bread with domesticate dogs. All eastern coyotes have the DNA from western coyotes, two species of gray wolves and domesticated dogs. In addition, if anyone is interested, the word Coywolf has been coined by the media. There is no such thing as a Coywolf. Our species is considered the eastern coyote which is a hybrid. This hybridization means they are much larger than western coyotes and come in a much larger variety of colours. 👍🏻

Interesting thanks for this information

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Posted: Apr 01, 2023 - 11:47 am


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Saw a black wolf, not a coyote, in the north end of Haliburton county. Other two I’ve seen up there were a tan and brown combo. Usual coyotes I’ve seen are the typical grey colour.

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Posted: Apr 03, 2023 - 01:07 pm


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There are black coyotes, there are also black wolves. Just because you are only an hour from "the city" doesn't mean there are no wolves, just fewer. I live in Innisfil and I have had a black wolf behind my house at a stormwater retention pond. It wasn't a coyote, we've had plenty of them too. This was considerably larger and had no/none/zero fear when I initially ran outside yelling at it. It walked away after a short stare-down (me screaming/waving arms and kicking a short chain link fence that was between us). If you are wondering, the answer is yes - it did scare the S%$! out of me. Also, I assumed it was coyote (and smaller) when I first ran out the back door.

Shoot it!

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Posted: Apr 04, 2023 - 12:11 pm


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About 20 years ago I saw a jet black Whitetail In a field off hwy. 11 just south of the 6th line of Innisfil. I couldn't believe my eyes. I told an old hunting buddy & he said he had heard of them & they called them swamp bucks.

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Posted: Apr 04, 2023 - 01:33 pm


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QUOTE (wishfish @ Apr 03, 2023 - 01:07 pm)
There are black coyotes, there are also black wolves. Just because you are only an hour from "the city" doesn't mean there are no wolves, just fewer. I live in Innisfil and I have had a black wolf behind my house at a stormwater retention pond. It wasn't a coyote, we've had plenty of them too. This was considerably larger and had no/none/zero fear when I initially ran outside yelling at it. It walked away after a short stare-down (me screaming/waving arms and kicking a short chain link fence that was between us). If you are wondering, the answer is yes - it did scare the S%$! out of me. Also, I assumed it was coyote (and smaller) when I first ran out the back door.

Shoot it!

Wishfish

Interesting.

Not common to see any wolves down this far south in the last 100 years but not impossible by any means.

Was it the size that made you think it was a wolf? I ask because wolves are very timid and do not like being seen. Eastern Coyotes can be very big and have way less fear of humans.

I do have a friend that got a photo of what he assumed was a wolf in Hockley Valley. He said it was super elusive and spooky which wolves are for the most part. It was extremely big and he could only get a photo from very very far away. Hard to say wolf or not definitively.

The largest Eastern Coyote I could find record of was 62lbs which is the size of a small wolf.

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Posted: Apr 04, 2023 - 03:21 pm


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Ok sorry this is NUTS.

https://www.saltwire.com/newfoundland-labra...-coyote-126046/

Who would mistake an 82lb Coyote for a wolf???
Damn that’s a big boy.

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wishfish
Posted: Apr 08, 2023 - 04:57 pm


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Hi Disco,

It was the size and the fact that it looked like a wolf and not a coyote. I’ve hunted coyotes, this was no coyote. I have a 80+lbs dog, this was bigger.

It’s the only life experience I have with one other than at a zoo or on tv. Just thought I’d share.

Cheers,

Wishfish

PS here is a coyote picture from behind my fence. Again, we get plenty of those (no pic of wolf)



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Posted: Apr 08, 2023 - 06:03 pm


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Cool Wishfish.

I was just curious.

Honestly I wish we had more in southern Ontario. If we did we would have less Coyotes.

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